Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:30 AM, jon.streeter <jon.streeter at cox.net> wrote: > Straight razors almost never are shave ready out of the box; they have to > be manually honed, then stropped sometimes using double-sided box strops > with two different grades of diamond-grit sharpening paste, and then > stropped on bare leather. It would make the razors too costly if the > manufacturers did this work post production. Could it be that something > similar pertains in lens manufacture? > When I was in television production, and I bought a new Angeneiux zoom lens, or a prime, I would send my camera and the new lens to Century to be fitted to the camera. I now usually do the same with new or new to me Leica lenses. I pack them up and send them to DAG. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: grduprey at mchsi.com > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: [Leica] Leitaxed R lenses on Nikon > Date: Fri, Nov 30, 2012 9:51 pm > > > Jayanand, > > i have not had any need to send in my M or R lenses for focussing > problems, film or digital. So far my Nikon AF lenses have not had any > focussing problems either. But if the Nikon lens was so far off that it > could be seen easily I would indeed send it back. If I spend $2000 to > $4000 for a Nikon lens, it had better be dead on just like I would expect a > Leica lens. These lenses did not have this problem back in the film days, > so why should we allow this just because we now use digital cameras? These > companies tell us in their ads that they make the best lenses out there, > and then deliver something less than the best. In my book that is not > acceptable. At the very least that is false advertising. It is not that I > do not appreciate this adjustment, but that I expect the lenses I buy to > meet their specifications, and not have to be adjusted to make them focus > correctly right out of the box. If a lens wore, or aged electrically over > a long period of time, then this feature would be nice to make a small > correction, but when new the lens should be focussing correctly, within its > tolerances as given by the manufacturer, and not require an adjustment from > the camera to make it meet its specification. jmho. > > Cheers, > gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 7:57:54 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leitaxed R lenses on Nikon > > Gene, > Are you telling be that sending lens and body to Solms is a better > solution than spending a few minutes in your house to solve the same > problem? Methinks you doth protest too much! I personally think the > Leica bunch is much more credulous and much less critical of their > company's and equipment shortcomings than the others, that is all. > Anyway, enough has been said on this subject, all points of view > thrashed out, I personally think it is getting to be a bit of a > bore... > We will all continue doing what we want to do! > Cheers > Jayanand > > Sent from my iPad > > On 01-Dec-2012, at 3:10 AM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote: > > > Jayanand, > > > > I'm sorry, but I agree with Doug. These cameras and lenses should be > right when they get to the user, and not require user adjustments to work > correctly. So far, My D4 and AF-S lenses have been right on when I > received them, and I expect them to be correct. Would you not expect your > new car or TV to be working correctly when you get them? It seems that > today everyone expects defects (except the Leica bunch), and that buying a > software fix is just fine. Oh, your lens is soft, just run the files > through So & So Software and it will be sharp. Sorry not for me. Why even > buy a N or C lens then, any old piece of junk will do just fine after > running the software lens fix. > > > > Cheers, > > Gene > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com> > > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:09:11 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leitaxed R lenses on Nikon > > > > They are absolutely excellent wildlife shooting machines and I am willing > > to put the time taken to get them fine tuned and perfect, as are all the > > wildlife photographers I know of, but one. If you think they are shoddy > > don't use them. Period. No one is talking you out of using whatever > > equipment you wish to use. Talk about cognitive bias, narrow mindedness > and > > chips on the shoulder. Get a life. > > Cheers > > Jayanand > > > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:31 PM, wildlightphoto at earthlink.net < > > wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote: > > > >> Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: > >> > >> It took me two hours to calibrate 11 lenses on two bodies. It is not > >> particularly time consuming or difficult. > >> > >> One would think that it would take less time to do it as part of > >> production. It's shoddy manufacturing. The cameras are sold defective. > >> > >> Doug Herr > >> Birdman of Sacramento > >> http://www.wildlightphoto.com > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:18 PM, wildlightphoto at earthlink.net < > >> wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote: > >> > >>> Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: > >>> > >>> As an aside in this discussion, for autofocus lenses and DSLR bodies - > >> get > >>> something like LensAlign and adjust the focus using the "AF Fine Tune" > >>> function in the menu. The D700 has the capacity to store values for 12 > >>> lenses, and the D800 for 20 lenses. Once you test and store the values > >> for > >>> a lens, and switch on the "AF Fine Tune" function, the values will > >>> automatically be used when you mount the lens. There is considerable > >>> variance, so this is really worth doing. > >>> <<< > >>> > >>> One must wonder why AF SLR cameras aren't made with less variance and > why > >>> the onus of focus accuracy is dumped on the user. OTOH, more profits > for > >>> LensAlign. > >>> > >>> Doug Herr > >>> Birdman of Sacramento > >>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft? 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