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Subject: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use READ RESPONSE!
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 03:16:44 -0500

Absolutely the idea that  working photographer would be a Leica user is very
innovative and enlightening. Especially on a Leica list.
There are long lists of other photographers who have spent their career
shooting Leica cameras. We have Ted here on the our list to talk first hand
but this is not obscure information. It should not be news.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: jon streeter <jon.streeter at cox.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:58:07 -0800
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use  READ RESPONSE!
> 
> Fascinating insight, Dr. Grant.  These are issues I've been curious about.
> And hearing it from you just lends tons of weight to such an opinion.
> 
> Years ago I met a man here in the balmy clime of southern California, who
> introduced himself as "Bear," who had said he had completely stopped 
> wearing
> shoes, and that he had discovered that his choice had taken him on a path
> that, shod, he would not have followed.
> 
> I've wondered in a similar vein if following my heart by sticking with 
> Leicas
> would lead me on a path I would be glad I had taken.  These days, it would
> probably be the path less taken.
>  
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
> 
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: tedgrant at shaw.ca
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use  READ RESPONSE!
> Date: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 2:48 pm
> 
> 
> Bill Pearce OFFERED:
> 
>> Subject: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use
>> For a working PJ, using a Leica exclusively is a fool's errand. There are
>> too many times when a long lens is necessary and the Leica can't do it. 
>> <<<
> 
> excuse me???????????
> 
> Bill surely you jest? And or have a major hate on for LEICA? AND lacking a
> great deal of Leica glass knowledge!
> 
> But even then there's lots of incredible "LONG LEICA GLASS AVAILABLE!"
> Obviously the user must be a well paid staffer! In my case I was always
> shooting for clients to the extent I had times when I wished I could clone
> myself to cope with the offered assignments.  TODAY???? 2012???????? NO
> DISCUSSION! :-( I now create my own projects and generally paid in 
> royalties,
> sales of prints, DVD's, books and lectures across the country.
> 
> Prior to the digital era and the somewhat demise of Leica due to it's 
> failing
> horribly in re-action to the digital era firestorm as many others failed to
> move with or ahead of the times.
> 
> A Leica in the hands of experienced well published and experienced
> photojournalist's,  Leica was the camera of many of us! Long glass and 
> SLR's
> or widest wides! I used the following lenses on either M's or SLR models. 
> Or
> both when applicable depending on the tools required to do the assignment
> properly! And I hardly if ever considered myself on a fools errand!
> 
> Actually my good fellow, "YOUR REFERENCE IS BLOODY INSULTING!"
> 
> The list of lenses owned and used on M & SLR's as the assignments called 
> for
> them: 15mm both, 21mm both, 28 both, 35 both, 50M, 60 macro, 100macro, 
> 80-1.4,
> 90's both, 180-2.8, 250, 280-2.8, 400-6.8, 400-2.8, 560-6.8. AND the 800mm
> when required! Or quite simply use the 1.4 and 2X extenders on the 400mm 
> 2.8
> locked together creating a drop dead incredible 800mm f8.0. A couple of 
> zooms,
> 35-70-F4 and a couple made by the Japanese for Leica.
> 
> And the most incredible ZOOM beyond ones wildest imagination razor sharp 
> wide
> open 80-200 f.4.0 zoom lens! Incredible wide open or any aperture!
> ! 
> 
> Yester year????????? I'd have a Leica before anything else! Today? Even 
> with
> the listed glitch's and I had the income or "earning it in today's dollar
> relationship to the long ago past?" YEP! You bet!  Maybe my changing one 
> eye
> eye-sight MIGHT create a situation to go to Canon for auto-focus. But that
> only! 
> 
> You see there are photojournalists who've worked the world about, on
> assignments beyond the wildest imaginations of many and used Leicas for 
> more
> years than the majority of young-'uns of today were born.  Gear is gear 
> and to
> each his own as the assignment demands. Yep I've always been first in line 
> to
> bitch about Leica....... ! BUT? I'll take a Leica before all the rest 
> anytime.
> And that me lad is said purely due to 60 plus years of experience as a
> published working Leica photojournalist! And still doing it in the 84th 
> year
> of life!! Although in a slightly limited fashion these days! But a Leica 
> still
> in hand! :-)
> Have a nice day! 
> 
> cheers,
> Dr. ted 
> 
> 
> 
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