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Subject: [Leica] Monochrom PESO
From: lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 02:18:28 +0100
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Jay,

Thank you very much for your comments, I find your point of view really 
interesting and honest. But my ideal would be reach the beauty of the film 
and the comfort of the digital, or at least I want try to approach as much 
as I can. I'm quite happy with the conversions I'm doing from my DNG files 
of my M8 with Silver Efex Pro, but I've really appreciated the rich grays on 
the MM and the possibilities to work in different manners these files, is 
really exciting... but very expensive, I hope in some time that MM decrease 
the price, meanwhile I'll continue using my M8 and my truly monochromes old 
M's...

Recently I have started printing and I'm surprised how the printing has 
improved the B&W quality, I can say I'm very happy.

Thanks Jay!

Cheers
Lluis 


El 11/12/2012, a las 03:42, Jay Burleson escribi?:

> Lluis, thanks again for you kind words.
> 
> I have yet to use Silver Efex. I've tried several images in it to see what 
> the program was like, and I really can't say anything it does appeals to 
> me.
> I don't want my images to look like 35mm film.
> A large majority of my older work in 35mm was with color transparency 
> film, particularly Fuji Astia & Velvia.
> I used my 4x5 for monochrome images, which is why I don't have much or it 
> available on my gallery, due to the costs of getting a quality scan of 
> sheet film.
> In my ideal world, I want my digital images to look like well exposed & 
> processed sheet film.
> Smooth and full range of tonalities, good sharpness, and minimal grain (or 
> noise).
> I am still figuring out how to do that consistently with the post 
> processing tools that are now available.
> 
> A digital image is not a film image, and that is all right.
> Just as an oil painting is not a watercolor; both offer a look that is in 
> accordance to what the artist wishes.
> 
> At this time, I think the Monochrom is the only thing out there that can 
> get me to where I want to be without going back to sheet film.
> 
> I may have a different opinion when I get a printer (soon) that is capable 
> of taking monochrome inks and start printing the files, but I hope not!
> 
> Jay
> 
> On 12/10/2012 6:09 PM, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
>> Jay,
>> 
>> I have now a very few time more. These to last posting are excellent B&W, 
>> the kind of BW I want obtain, particularly I like better the second one, 
>> the light is wonderful, clean whites and blacks seeing texture... a great 
>> work!
>> 
>> Just a question, did you aded processing with Silver Efex Pro 2?, I 
>> always apply this process and I obtain the best results, but when you 
>> already have an excellent source file as the one by the MM...? Looking at 
>> these images I think that I can completely forget the nostalgia I have 
>> for the film, maybe the film improve more density range and deep tones, 
>> but a very few difference, when I've test the files that Tina has offered 
>> us, I was really impressed by the versatility that these files has for 
>> give different editions in B&W. IMO this one demonstrates what is capable 
>> this camera:
>> 
>>  http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Test/121018_0474bn.jpg.html
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
> Jay,
> 
> Want to be a better photographer?
> Stand in front of more interesting things...
> Jay Burleson Gallery <http://jayburleson.com/leica/gallery/index.php/>
> 
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