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Subject: [Leica] [Lexica] Gun control
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:58:02 -0500

Here in NYC we have  a Starbucks every two blocks. Gun stores I've not seen
yet.
Starbucks. 256 (that's also an f stop) in NYC
Gun stores? Real hard to find one. Wait I'm checking.....
>From what I can tell about a dozen. I read you have to go upstate to find
them.

256 / 12  = 21.3
 so that's 21 single espressos per Beretta.


On 12/15/12 3:42 AM, "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:

> Worldwide. Actually, the figures for *$ has gone up to about 20,000 and the
> # if gun stores are "only" 50,000.
> 
> The point isn't to make a scientific comparison, the point is if you ask
> any one on the street to make a guess, they would not have guessed
> correctly.
> 
> This country has skewed priority.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
> rabinergroup.com>wrote:
> 
>> # of Starbucks in US?
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/15/12 3:03 AM, "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> # of Starbucks worldwide : less than 18,000
>>> # of gun stores in US : more than 130,000
>>> 
>>> Any questions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I hope that you are right and that I am wrong. But I believe otherwise,
>>>> sadly.
>>>> 
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> YNWA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 15, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> My gut feeling is you're wrong too many children on both American
>> coasts
>>>>> have just died I've just seen the photo of Obama's face in the news.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Was reading an economic thing yesterday. Not so good but private arms
>>>> sales
>>>>> in the USA are way up. Why? Because they know the writing is on the
>> wall.
>>>>> This is their last chance to put finishing touches on their beloved
>>>>> arsenals.
>>>>> I think in a week and a month our blood will still be up.
>>>>> And the NRA goes down.
>>>>> And in a year.
>>>>> The anti gun legislation papers will have to be wrestled from Obama's
>>>> cold
>>>>> dead hands. Americans are going to be taking to the streets and I'm
>>>> going to
>>>>> be one of them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This stuff happening  now happens nowhere else in the world.
>>>>> Constant people being shot.
>>>>> I think I will be great for tourism as right now we are viewed by the
>>>> entire
>>>>> world as a bunch of gun nuts. And they're right. But think its time has
>>>>> come. We're going to have more people not afraid to come visit here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/15/12 1:47 AM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Most European countries have those rights and more.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But anyway, it is a useless debate. The NRA has too much political
>>>> power and
>>>>>> the gun culture is too deeply ingrained in the US for anything to
>>>> change.
>>>>>> There will be outrage and sorrow for a few days, but it will die down
>>>> and our
>>>>>> collective attention will move on to something else.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Phil Forrest wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Most countries in the East also don't have the freedoms of speech,
>>>>>>> religion, press like we do here. Right to due process of law.
>> Innocence
>>>>>>> until proven guilty by a jury of one's peers. Right to a speedy
>> trial.
>>>>>>> Right to be secure in one's effects. Equal protection under the law
>> for
>>>>>>> all citizens. Right to vote. The list goes down the Bill of Rights
>> and
>>>>>>> through the rest of the US Constitution. No matter what nation says
>>>>>>> they have it right, they are wrong. Nobody is perfect, including the
>>>>>>> USA but here in the USA we have these rights and many are willing to
>>>>>>> give their lives to protect them.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Phil Forrest
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:11:42 +0800
>>>>>>> David Ching <davidhhching1 at yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Most countries in the East ban possession of fire-arms by
>> individuals
>>>>>>>> and unlicensed bodies. Schools here do not have metal detectors.
>>>>>>>> The students in general study in safe environments little affected
>> by
>>>>>>>> violence, drugs or extortion. Only bullying by peers rears its ugly
>>>>>>>> head in certain schools. We watch the same violent movies. Have the
>>>>>>>> same concerns about safety. This is the 21st century. Why does
>>>>>>>> Americans need to have guns for self-protection? Stop shooting games
>>>>>>>> & hunting with bullets. 'Shoot' with glass! Capture not kill not
>>>>>>>> maim. It's time to act when little innocent kids get killed and
>>>>>>>> scarred for life.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's indeed a very sad day in the history of the USA. And I am
>>>>>>>> certain some other shooter will try to outdo this latest insane act.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mark, the firearms industry and gun toting lovers will always defend
>>>>>>>> the right to arms. Until one of their kind is personally affected, I
>>>>>>>> suppose. Sorry but I don't see the logic. Perhaps our differences in
>>>>>>>> lifestyles account for this madness. It's not matter of the East
>>>>>>>> versus the West. The Europeans do not bear arms.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As I see it, the only way out is a total ban on guns for the
>> civilian
>>>>>>>> population. Of course with the usual exceptions..
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> David Ching
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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