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Subject: [Leica] [Lexica] Gun control a nickel a round will not create a black market
From: mak at teleport.com (Mark Kronquist)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:06:51 -0800
References: <20121215195858.MVMY29905.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo305>

Some say US Market for non MLE was  Billion rounds in 2010 that generates 
$250M to help with education, safety and the victims and their families (oh 
medical bills =, counseling etc) 
On Dec 15, 2012, at 11:58 AM, jon.streeter wrote:

> Here's where everybody, including, be it noted, the much and wrongly 
> villified members of the NRA (which mostly is heard about rather than 
> heard from):  this school shooting is a tragedy.  I for one cannot bear to 
> think about it in terms of my own children.
> 
> Where we disagree is in what action to take.  Criminals don't pay any 
> attention to the law.  Restricting guns, or gun ownership, or taxing ammo 
> will simply create a new market for organized crime.  Look at the 
> worldwide war on drugs.  The only people directly affected by laws are the 
> law-abiding.
> 
> Our schools are gun-free zones and thus are magnets for the kind of person 
> bent on shooting defenseless children.  
> 
> How about armed security guards at schools?  We have them at the entrances 
> to our children's court and in every courtrooom.  Are guns around children 
> such a horrible idea that we should disarm our security guards and 
> bailiffs? 
> 
> Remember the Fort Hood shooting?  Clinton had ordered that military 
> personnel on a military installation must be disarmed.  Look what a 
> message that sent.  Are we outraged and saddened over that tragedy?  I am. 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
> 
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "FRANK DERNIE" <frank.dernie at btinternet.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: [Leica] [Lexica] Gun control
> Date: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 8:32 am
> 
> 
> Maybe the only solution is to restrict the availability of ammo. $100 
> dollar tax on every shell case?
> That may bypass gun possesion laws, you can have as many guns as you like 
> but only 3 bullets for self defence?
> 
> The problem is that there are so many guns around no control has a 
> snowballs hope in hell of working, even if the NRA changed its mind.
> As the saying goes, you have made your bed, now you have to lie in it.
> 
> It is heartbreaking to think of all those poor bereaved parents. I have no 
> idea how they can cope with such a loss. I just can not imagine how I 
> would have felt if this happened to my children or grandchildren. And I 
> have tried.
> 
> Devastating.
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Dennis Kushner <dennis.leicam6 at gmail.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> 
>> Sent: Saturday, 15 December 2012, 15:50
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] [Lexica] Gun control
>> 
>> Chris Rock has it nailed:
>> "if bullets cost $5000 each, there would be no innocent bystanders"
>> 
>> What we really need is for legislators to write own bills instead
>> of having lobby's write them & pass them on to congressmen. After all,
>> most are educated lawyers & should be prosecuted for plagiarism
>> if introducing legislation created by others. That goes for all 
>> legislation.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> And the NRA goes down. Along with pharma & all other lobbies.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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