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Subject: [Leica] Gun control
From: mak at teleport.com (Mark Kronquist)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 22:55:05 -0800
References: <B4698432-54EA-4E49-9692-79860DC56164@yahoo.com.sg> <20121215012921.2e42eef4@linux-mh41.site>

In the US there are roughly 315 million people AND      guns...realism is a 
necessary response
On Dec 14, 2012, at 10:29 PM, Phil Forrest wrote:

> Most countries in the East also don't have the freedoms of speech,
> religion, press like we do here. Right to due process of law. Innocence
> until proven guilty by a jury of one's peers. Right to a speedy trial.
> Right to be secure in one's effects. Equal protection under the law for
> all citizens. Right to vote. The list goes down the Bill of Rights and
> through the rest of the US Constitution. No matter what nation says
> they have it right, they are wrong. Nobody is perfect, including the
> USA but here in the USA we have these rights and many are willing to
> give their lives to protect them.
> 
> Phil Forrest
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:11:42 +0800
> David Ching <davidhhching1 at yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> 
>> Most countries in the East ban possession of fire-arms by individuals
>> and unlicensed bodies. Schools here do not have metal detectors. 
>> The students in general study in safe environments little affected by
>> violence, drugs or extortion. Only bullying by peers rears its ugly
>> head in certain schools. We watch the same violent movies. Have the
>> same concerns about safety. This is the 21st century. Why does
>> Americans need to have guns for self-protection? Stop shooting games
>> & hunting with bullets. 'Shoot' with glass! Capture not kill not
>> maim. It's time to act when little innocent kids get killed and
>> scarred for life. 
>> 
>> It's indeed a very sad day in the history of the USA. And I am
>> certain some other shooter will try to outdo this latest insane act. 
>> 
>> Mark, the firearms industry and gun toting lovers will always defend
>> the right to arms. Until one of their kind is personally affected, I
>> suppose. Sorry but I don't see the logic. Perhaps our differences in
>> lifestyles account for this madness. It's not matter of the East
>> versus the West. The Europeans do not bear arms. 
>> 
>> As I see it, the only way out is a total ban on guns for the civilian
>> population. Of course with the usual exceptions.. 
>> 
>> 
>> David Ching
>> 
>> 
>> 
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In reply to: Message from davidhhching1 at yahoo.com.sg (David Ching) ([Leica] Gun control)
Message from photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Phil Forrest) ([Leica] Gun control)