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Subject: [Leica] Fwd: Gun control
From: bjq1 at mac.com (Barney Quinn)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:05:25 -0500
References: <20121216224942.LVRY2891.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo209>

Jon,

You have made yourself clear. That's your right, and I support it. How about 
giving it a rest and posting some of your pictures instead?

Barney

On Dec 16, 2012, at 5:49 PM, jon.streeter wrote:

> Sir, I believe it would be accurate to say we don't know each other.  Even 
> after this brief exchange, we don't know each other.
> 
> I am new to this group but certainly not to the world.  And as for your 
> comment about what sort of person I am, I believe -- correct me if I'm 
> mistaken -- that you are being intentionally rude, perhaps with the 
> implication that this "sort of person" does not deserve to be treated with 
> respect.  I will resist the temptation to respond in kind.
> 
> Suffice it to say that when one side in a debate is bereft of ideas, 
> facts, or reason, it abandons the debate and goes after whomever it 
> perceives as the opponent. 
> 
> If you have anything sensible to say on this subject, off-topic though it 
> may be, I will be delighted at the opportunity to have my views altered by 
> a reasoned argument.
> 
> The mass murder of innocent children and the inevitable exploitation of 
> their tragic deaths by impassioned insistence on expansion of government 
> power is not about me.  I would appreciate your refraining from casting 
> further aspersions on my character, however vague and unsupported.  I will 
> show you, as I have already shown here, the same courtesy.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
> 
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "FRANK DERNIE" <frank.dernie at btinternet.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: [Leica] Fwd: Gun control
> Date: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 11:56 am
> 
> 
> And very much less damage with a machete, as has been shown, injuries no 
> deaths.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverhampton_machete_attack.
> 
> 
> But you have made it very clear what sort of person you are.
> You are very, very new to the group so I didn't know you at all.
> Now I do, at least a bit.
> 
> FD
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: jon.streeter <jon.streeter at cox.net>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, 15 December 2012, 18:30
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fwd: Gun control
>> 
>> What is "better gun control"?  We have over 20,000 gun laws on the books 
>> already.
>> 
>> This lunatic could have done much worse damage with gasoline and a free 
>> book of matches or a grocery bag of household chemicals or a car aimed at 
>> a crosswalk or schoolyard packed with children.
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>> 
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "David Ching" <davidhhching1 at yahoo.com.sg>
>> To: "Phil" <photo.forrest at earthlink.net>, <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: [Leica] Fwd: Gun control
>> Date: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 8:41 am
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Don't disagree with you Phil on the freedom issue. And yes, no country 
>>> in the East has that kind of openness found in the USA.
>>> And despite all the issues like the killings in Connecticut, the USA is 
>>> an icon of freedom and equality that many others yearn for. Yet, one 
>>> wonders if it is all worth-while when the right to arm and defend 
>>> oneself lead to tragedies like this. And why do some states have 
>>> different rules on gun control? Are some "animals more equal than 
>>> others"?
>>> The issue here whether is gun control too lax.  Is it time to move from 
>>> the "Wild Wild West" mind set?
>>> 
>>> And while trying to resolve social, economic and political inequalities 
>>> is the ideal long term solution, does America have to witness more 
>>> senseless mass killings with the bullet before better gun control is put 
>>> In place? We can't bring back these innocent children who was needlessly 
>>> killed. It is freedom from fear that Americans will also relish by 
>>> banning the use of guns by civilians.
>>> 
>>> God bless America.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Ching
>>> 
>> 
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