Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/01/15

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Subject: [Leica] Untitled
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:55:27 +1000
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Mark that sounds pretty overblown to me. The R system stopped production
because not enough people bought what was offered, not because Leica
Camera disregarded thousands of long time R lenses users and lovers.
The DMR story is pretty well known I think. In the end there were a couple
of thousand in total actually sold. How many are still in service I don't
know.  I admire the enthusiasm and dedication of people like Doug or
Charlie who still produce great work with theirs but they were ,even when
new, a minority of Leica Camera's own small part of the market.
The R10 cancellation too is a well known story. Again the assessment was
that there were just not enough potential customers.
The M system is the reason that Leica Camera has survived and now has
improving fortunes.  Shortly there is to be an adapter that will allow the
owners of those R lenses to use them again with a new camera that will be
both much cheaper than the R 10 was to be , in full frame and with a modern
sensor and added functionality. I don't think that you have been abandoned
nor betrayed.

*If you want to take more interesting pictures,
stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 15 January 2013 18:48, Marc Dufour <foto at marcdufour.net> wrote:

> Even with just half a brain, it's easy to verify Leica has disregarded
> thousands of long time R lenses users and lovers.
> It was much more than a small but solid market, and still appreciates
> these lenses, but doesn't care the present company, nor its
> future
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: lug-bounces+foto=marcdufour.net at leica-users.org [mailto:
> lug-bounces+foto=marcdufour.net at leica-users.org] En nombre de Mark
> Rabiner
> Enviado el: martes, 15 de enero de 2013 5:11
> Para: Leica Users Group
> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Untitled
>
> I don't think Leica has destroyed anything or lost anything it was obvious
> to anybody with half a brain that the transition to
> digital for a company like Leica was not going to be smooth. Its first
> outs did not have the luck of the Irish behind them it could
> have gone better but it just didn't.  I think with the introduction of the
> Digital M and Monochrom Leica is solidly back on track
> and will win back its small but solid market slice just like it had in the
> 1980's and 90's.
> The Leica name is as  str0ng as ever (brand) they are making money hand
> over fist making cameras as fast as they can and doing what
> appears to be solid Research and development. Then years ago they were
> being spoken of in the past tense. I'm looking forward to
> getting by M glass back going in the very near future  and I doubt I'm the
> only one in that situation.
>
> By the way to those who complain about how new lenses have gone through
> the roof. You can still buy used Leica glass from the 90's,
> 80's, 70's, 60's, 40's maybe even 30's with range of price points matching
> up with a range of quality levels.
>
>
> On 1/13/13 9:45 AM, "Marc Dufour" <foto at marcdufour.net> wrote:
>
> > Leica has destroyed in few years a well-deserved prestige and lost the
> > confidence of the most demanding photographers.
> > Almost a century of the best craftsmanship just wasted... by stupid
> > businessmen. Time to recover other values?
> >
> > Merci pour ton commentaire!
> > Et amiti?s,
> > Marc
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
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>
>
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