Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/02/02

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Subject: [Leica] simple intellectual property question
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:36:41 -0500

Its great to get expert advice Jack!

On your last paragraph I think people use their Facebook site as an
alternative website now with the galleries appealing to potential clients
and continuing to appeal to present and past clients how are on it. This is
why so many people are spending more time and energy tweaking their FB
galleries than their own websites. They are also in effect blogs but blogs
that people actually  look at. And are an extraordinary valuable piece of
public relations and or advertizing. A great "meet cute" vehicle...soft
sell.

On  in your last paragraph" you probably shouldn't post anything that might
help make that living for you. " you really think a potential client is
going to not bother hiring you for the rights of one of your imagers when
they can get a small scan it and use it illegally off your FB website? Just
not visualizing that but I bet it happened once.

I can however see how Facebook use competes directly against the company you
work for.   (from Linked in)
".... Media will target and deliver your message to the right audience in
the most engaging way possible. We provide customized marketing solutions
tailored specifically to meet your business goals. With the largest audience
in Maine, the combined reach of our print and online products influence over
100,000 households and over 1.2 million unique visitors every month."



On 2/2/13 4:39 PM, "Jack Milton" <jmilton2 at maine.rr.com> wrote:

> Hi Ken,
>  I'm not a lawyer, but the photo editor at a daily newspaper. I have 
> spoken to
> a lawyer about photos on Facebook. Facebook, and any other photo sharing 
> Web
> site, and your ISP, for that matter, is just trying to protect itself by
> saying that if you post a photo, or other content on FB, FB has the 
> *right* to
> display that photo. It seems a simple enough concept?why would FB need 
> legal
> permission to display content that you've upload to FB for the very 
> purpose of
> displaying it, but that's what's happened in our litigious society.
> 
>  Of far more concern to any content producer, is what can happen to your
> content (photo) if you post it anywhere on the Internet, or even send it 
> in an
> email to someone you know. It's just TOO easy to "share" (steal) that 
> content
> and use it for some other purpose. That shouldn't stop you from posting 
> your
> photos on FB, or the LUG  gallery, or anywhere else. Just be aware that 
> you're
> giving up a lot of control over what happens to that content once you press
> that Send or OK button.
> 
>  If you're a photographer who is trying to make a living from your
> photographs, you probably shouldn't post anything that might help make that
> living for you. Share them with your clients, your agency, your employer. 
> Use
> them to advertise you skills. The rest can be posted anywhere you like to
> entertain your friends and the world, just expect them to show up in
> unexpected places.
> 
> Jack Milton
> 
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> I think this is clear, but I would appreciate any corrections.  The 
>> Facebook
>> terms of use state that for any IP content that I post, I retain ownership
>> but grant a royalty-free sublicense.  From the definition of "content", it
>> appears that if I post a link to one of my photos on Facebook, I have
>> granted the sublicense for that image, the same as if I had uploaded the
>> image to Facebook.  Correct?  Thanks for any help.
> 
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