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Subject: [Leica] speed booster
From: red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone)
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 22:27:52 -0800
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Thanks for the lesson.....

Now maybe a 35 f0.47 sounds good, but only if you own a Nocti to begin 
with.....

More practical for a greater segment of the market is......a 50 Summilux 
with this gizmo...

Imagine  $600 + 50 Summilux = 35mm  Noctilux... now there is something I can 
sink my teeth into....

If only they made one for the M Mount.... 

Frank Filippone
Red735i at verizon.net


-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org 
[mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
Howard Ritter
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 11:44 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] speed booster

Well, no. But a 35mm f/0.47, yes.

The Metabones is a focal reducer, the opposite of a tele-extender. Such are 
well known to astroimagers for increasing the field of view of a telescope 
and the brightness of the image it produces. If you use a positive lens to 
reduce the effective focal length of an objective without restricting the 
aperture, you have lowered the f-ratio. And that's what the Metabones does: 
reduce the focal length by a factor of 0.71, which is approximately = v2/2. 
Since the brightness of an image at a given f.l. varies with the square of 
the aperture (therefore inversely with the square of the f-ratio), reducing 
the f.l. by a factor of v2/2 thus brightens the image by a factor of 2, or a 
full f-stop. 

Question is, does the Metabones have the throat (entrance pupil I believe) 
that would be required to accommodate the huge light cone from the full-open 
Nocti?

It's related to the annoying fact that no passive optical assistance will 
make an object appear brighter than it would be to the naked eye at a 
distance where the object would appear the same size as the optic makes it 
appear. No free lunches in optics. Gaining any reduction in f-stop without 
decreasing the f.l., now that would be magic!

 howard

On Feb 3, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote:

> Can you imagine a 50mm F0.47 lens?
> 
> Oh please, an M mount on both sides?
> Pretty please?
> 
> On a similar note.... I just found my Komura Telemore II 2x Extender 
> for M cameras..... need to take it out for a test with the M9.... if 
> it focuses well, WOW!
> I can stand some image degradation.. but out of focus drives me nuts....
> It came with a Komura LTM-M adapter... to which I have several genuine 
> and non genuine adapters... must try a few to see if one works better 
> than the others....
> 
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
> 
> any thoughts on this :"
> 
> http://www.metabones.com/info/105-info/154-speed-booster
> 
> brgds
> Simon
> 
> 
> 
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