Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/02/12
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mark, I agree. We will have to keep looking for revues! That should clear the problem up without a doubt! I presume a rave revue is a revue with drugs and a Sony RX-1? (-: Cheers Jayanand Sent from my iPad On 13-Feb-2013, at 8:53 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > Pauls opinion is of course to be taken seriously. > It is of course. One opinion > One can easily check out other revues which are out. > None of them are bad. I read or two or three long others. > the luminous landscape one is very intensive. And super good. > In a month there will be a dozen. We'll see if any of them are bad. > But if one opinion decides the issue for you; you'll not be interested in > any of them. > I think we'll be seeing people out using this camera. And we'll be seeing > their work. So it won't be an issue of complied rave revues. > > > On 2/12/13 8:24 PM, "Richard Man" <richard at imagecraft.com> wrote: > >> Yes, and if we can trust anyone, it would be Paul's. >> On Feb 12, 2013 5:06 PM, "Marty Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> But the lens isn't very good, which is particularly problematic in a >>> fixed lens camera. >>> >>> Marty >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>> wrote: >>>> All this talk about flash this and flash that. >>>> This is a full frame camera which can be used easily at iso 64,000 and >>>> beyond just like a 3 pound full frame DSLR flagship camera can be. But >>> can >>>> go in your pocket. >>>> And just like a Rollei 35. Which few used with flash. >>>> >>>> Its the beginning of full frame compact options for those who want the >>>> quality that full frame brings you and are willing to pay a bit extra >>>> for >>>> it. >>>> They 're not going to have to pay THAT much for it as this is also >>> obviously >>>> a premium placed camera. The ostentatious lens and ultra solid build >>> makes >>>> it so. Plenty of full frame compact options will be had soon made of >>>> more >>>> traditional plastic and with a safe mindless zoom designed to appeal to >>> the >>>> masses. It won't really cost this much to have full frame fit in your >>>> pocket. >>>> It will be under two grand not under three. USD. >>>> >>>> Sony is a company I trust more than any other electronics company. >>>> They seldom blow it. If that's the case now its a darned shame but I >>> don't >>>> think its going to slow up the reality of a full frame compact market. >>>> >>>> To me it makes the full frame compact solution really serious. Instead >>>> of >>>> just pretending to me. A full frame compact camera would really be a >>> serious >>>> picture taking solution to be embraced by top pros and very serious >>>> amateurs. The 1.5 crop and 2x crop would like to be but they are not. >>>> We are all just too familiar with what a full frame digital sensor can >>> bring >>>> to our work. And many of us are willing to drag one around to get that. >>> But >>>> when its compact that's a dream come true. When its compact we're >>>> talking >>>> Barnack. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/12/13 3:58 PM, "John Owlett" <owl at postmaster.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Monday 11 February 2013, at 18:06 PST, Paul Roark wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I had the opportunity to test a Sony RX1 briefly. I sent it back due >>>>>> to defects, but it is an interesting camera and has a few attributes >>>>>> that are an exciting glimpse of the future. >>>>>> >>>>>> ... snip ... >>>>>> >>>>>> So, interesting, but not ready for prime time for me. >>>>> >>>>> When the Sony DSC-RX1 was first mentioned on the LUG, several people >>>>> expressed doubts as to whether it would actually be bought to take >>>>> pictures. My reaction was, "It might be", so I went across to >>>>> Bournemouth to take a close look at one. >>>>> >>>>> The RX1 is basically a solidly built camera body with a 24.3 megapixel >>>>> sensor and a good 35mm f/2 lens. What Sony seems to be trying to do >>>>> is to offer picture quality as good as an M-240 + Summicron, with >>>>> build quality as good as an M-240 + Summicron ... without the >>>>> flexibility of a system camera ... but at less than half the weight >>>>> and less than half the price. >>>>> >>>>> And if Sony can achieve that, why not? After all, Rolleiflex sold >>>>> about two million miniature Rollei 35 film cameras, and still makes >>>>> an occasional batch. >>>>> >>>>> As a build-quality neurotic, but not a camera engineer, I felt that >>>>> the RX1 was as solidly built as the Nikon F3/T I had with me; >>>>> >>>>> ... but ... >>>>> >>>>> the RX1 has no integral viewfinder. There is an EVF you can put in >>>>> the hot shoe, but then you cannot fit a separate flash unit there. >>>>> There is a compact-camera-style pop-up flash, but of course that >>>>> won't bounce. >>>>> >>>>> There apppears to be no way to use an EVF and a separate flash unit >>>>> at the same time, without setting up a slave flash to be triggered >>>>> by the pop-up unit. Which is complication too far for my ideal of >>>>> a walkabout camera. >>>>> >>>>> So, while I would agree with Paul that it is "an exciting glimpse >>>>> of the future", I would also agree that it is "not ready for prime >>>>> time for me." >>>>> >>>>> Later, >>>>> >>>>> Dr Owl >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>> John Owlett, Southampton, UK >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>> Photography >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information