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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Chinatown Chef
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 21:24:32 +0100
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Not true, I *have* liked some. And especially the ones where you have used 
the empty space to add caligraphy. But this one does not lend itself to that 
either.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu
http://www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/

YNWA









On Mar 16, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Richard Man wrote:

> Fair comments, but honestly Nathan, which pano pictures I have posted in
> the last 6 years do you like? Ever? ;-P
> 
> There are two kinds of flower people: one who like flower pictures and one
> who don't.
> 
> Thanks for commenting to both of you though.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Phong <leicaphong at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I see it somewhat differently than Nathan.  I really like the cage theme;
>> very nice catch there.
>> I like having the car there, and would prefer even a little more of it. It
>> blocks the view thematically,
>> as if further boxing the man in.
>> 
>> I agree with Nathan that the panoramic format does not quite work here; 
>> too
>> much of empty space.
>> *Might* work better if the man was looking in that direction. Had the car
>> been on the right, it probably would
>> work better.  Ultimately though the cut off hat is what kills the photo 
>> for
>> me.
>> 
>> Composing the panoramic format is difficult, a lot of what I see on the 
>> web
>> looks contrived.
>> The panorama works better for me as an incidental format; in the same
>> portfolio, one a two
>> panoramas can be extremely effective.  An entire portfolio of panoramas 
>> can
>> be taxing to the viewer.
>> 
>> But you are in a special place, Richard. The panoramic format can
>> complement your
>> calligraphy work well, in the tradition of old Chinese scroll paintings.
>> Study these well, if you haven't
>> done so,  especially the landscapes.  They often break the panoramic
>> composition into small groups,
>> visually, but sometimes thematically also.  Think also of DaVinci's The
>> Last Supper; there the 12 sitting apostles
>> are grouped in 2 groups of 6, each group in turn composed of 2 smaller
>> groups of 3, with Jesus standing in
>> the middle, slightly but clearly isolated from the rest.  In this respect
>> your other submission today works better.
>> You have the musicians on the left, the dancers in the middle, the
>> spectators on the right. The composition,
>> while not perfect (space between musicians and dancers), works much, much
>> better than the caged
>> restaurant worker.
>> 
>> Keep at it, my friend.  I enjoy your photography now much more than 10
>> years ago.  That's a whole more than
>> I can say about my own photography.  I hope someday I will see a matching
>> pair of glorious *vertical *panos from you.
>> 
>> - Phong
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Please do not take it personally, Richard, but to me this is just about
>>> the worst picture you have ever posted. It looks like a total grab shot,
>>> the panoramic format simply does not work in this case other than to cut
>>> off the top of his hat and give us a completely unbalanced composition,
>>> with all that empty space on the right, and the car intruding on the left
>>> adds nothing, it just looks messy. MAYBE the image could be rescued by
>>> severe cropping: get rid of the car on the left and crop out most of the
>>> empty space on the right plus some of the bottom.
>>> 
>>> Sorry...
>>> 
>>> Nathan
>>> 
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>> 
>>> YNWA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Richard Man wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am REALLY liking this picture. Actually from NYC back in June. Never
>>>> finished the roll in the camera until today. What do you think?
>>>> 
>>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20130316-Scanned-46.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>> 
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> 
> -- 
> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
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