Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/03/23

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Subject: [Leica] Leica again in Portugal
From: cedric.agie at gmail.com (Cedric Agie)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:52:48 +0100
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When Leitz Wetzlar decided to stop the production of the M-4 in
Wetzlar (about 1972-1973) hoping the M-5 would conquer the market,
they didn't know what to do with the M-4 machines and spare parts.
Just in time came an order from the US Governement for another batch
of "military" M-4. So all machines and pieces went to Canada. This
saved the M-4 in te meantime Wetzlar saw the M-5 didn't have the
expected success. Studies for the M-5 took more than 10 years and
production and sales stopped after only a few years

Since I'm also a hunter, I recently learned optics for hunting etc are
made or assembled in Portugal these days. The international weapons
group FN/ Browning did the same years ago.

In never saw or heard any difference between cameras or optics etc
made in Germany, Canada or Portugal. On German TV I recently saw that
the finest jobs are done by woman. Must be a noisy business there in
Portugal.

Regards.
 Cedric


2013/3/23 Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>:
> No, no, no Ted's inspiration comes from Islay in Scotland...
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Lluis Ripoll
> <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> In my opinion, German are the best for the Beer, Portuguese for the Oporto
>> Wine, and Canadian for Ted's inspiration
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lluis
>>
>>
>>
>> El 22/03/2013, a las 19:42, philippe.amard at sfr.fr escribi?:
>>
>> > Agreed Nathan, so long as the benchmark is Canadian or German Port ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> > Philippe at Mutz and back to Port Charlotte's Peat Project
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ========================================
>> >
>> > Message du : 22/03/2013 19:27
>> > De : "Nathan Wajsman " <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>> > A : "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> > Copie ? :
>> > Sujet : Re: [Leica] Leica again in Portugal
>> >
>> >
>> > I think we should start a discussion on Portuguese vs. Canadian vs.
>> German-made Leicas. Haven't had one in a long time.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Nathan
>> >
>> > Nathan Wajsman
>> > Alicante, Spain
>> > http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> > http://www.greatpix.eu
>> > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> > Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> >
>> > YNWA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mar 22, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes Cedric, I know, my Leica R3 was "made in Portugal", later the
>> factory was closed and I think that actually is a new one
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Lluis
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> El 22/03/2013, a las 13:46, Cedric Agie escribi?:
>> >>
>> >>> This factory started in the R-3 era and produced the final series of
>> >>> this camera if I remember.
>> >>> On German TV I saw they produce sub items for the M these days that
>> >>> are then sent to Solms for final inspection, tuning and assembly.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards
>> >>>
>> >>> Cedric
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2013/3/22 Lluis Ripoll :
>> >>>> Thank you Douglas!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers
>> >>>> Lluis
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> El 22/03/2013, a las 12:12, Douglas Sharp escribi?:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Luis,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> the factory will be doing the same as it always did - manufacturing
>> Sport Optics products and making components and assemblies for Solms - 
>> they
>> are just moving "down the road" into a newer and bigger factory. The old
>> factory began work in 1973.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Cheers
>> >>>>> Douglas
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 22.03.2013 12:11, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
>> >>>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I've just read thew new that Leica is opening a new factory in
>> Portugal, but I don't have details about what will do there. Any other
>> informations?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Cheers
>> >>>>>> Lluis
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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