Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/10

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Subject: [Leica] Petition Against Adobe Subscription Model
From: charcot at comcast.net (Photo)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:42:12 -0600
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After listening to all the negative about CC but then also seeing all the 
good things about I personally as an amateur are going to stick with 
Photoshop 4 and Lightroom - this combo does everything I want it to.  I 
don't need the other elements that a professional would need.  In fact this 
CC may spur other companies to enter or improve their software offerings. 
If things were to get really bad and I needed updated software then I'll 
break down and learn how to use GIMP.

ernie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Adam Bridge
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:29 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Petition Against Adobe Subscription Model

Well as things stand now you don't need to be connected to the net except at 
the time of a renewal. So you can go 30 days w/o touching the net and still 
work. At least that has been my experience although I've never been off-line 
for longer than a few days at a stretch.

But for someone going on a trip without an internet connection this could 
become an issue.

I think I'll have to do some research.

I have been using CC for about a year now. I use InDesign (page layout), 
Illustrator (design), DreamWeaver (web layout), and Photoshop. I've been 
playing around with AfterEffects for a bit of video work although Final Cut 
X is where I do video for the most part. I'm not a Premiere fan. I have a 
purchased version of LightRoom although I could use the cloud version if I 
wished.

I can see that, in a few years, I might simply need LightRoom and Photoshop 
in which case CC looks like overkill.

It'll be interesting to see how all of this plays out. I don't know the 
economics of graphics design studios or other professional locations with 
many seats. It might be that CC is a good deal for them.

I read a piece on Nash's site that suggested that a version of Photoshop or 
Lightroom might always allow you to open an image, print it, and save it in 
another format allowing work to be retrieved into a non-proprietary format.

I don't consider DNG as proprietary.

Adam

On May 9, 2013, at 11:38 AM, R. Clayton McKee <rcmphoto at yahoo.com> wrote:

> If it's not all local, then their line about being able to use it when 
> you're not connected to the Net is a blatant (and actionable) falsehood.
>
> The only thing that can logically be set on a remote is a verification 
> that the copy is licensed...  and those things have been crackable since 
> probably the second day that the model was released.
>
> Personally I have no problem with the new model, and I'm not interested in 
> cracking it (even if I could, which I can't).  I won't be buying in, as 
> there are already several more than adequate alternatives for me, but it's 
> well within Adobe's rights to decide that they don't want people like me 
> (or anyone who asks me) as customers.
>
>
>
> R. Clayton McKee
> PhotoJournalist
> from somewhere just south of somewhere else...


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