Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I beg to disagree Mark. Bob and I had an Off list exhange this week about ISO and tripod - look at his last flower posts ... Amiti?s PHilippe ======================================== Message du : 17/05/2013 22:54 De : "Mark Rabiner " <mark at rabinergroup.com> A : "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Copie ? : Sujet : Re: [Leica] To tempt Fuji X users? Yep Bob you know that I know you are the real deal. But you mainly a low iso tripod landscape guy. Medium format digital which is a huge commitment I cant even make. We can use an M like that; at its lowest isos on a tripod. Its just not so much its main thing. Its main thing is pretty much the opposite. Hand head at high isos getting fast breaking situations. To those people the new M is a very big deal. And the non higher iso's on the M9 a deal breaker. On 5/17/13 4:18 PM, "Bob Adler" wrote: > Mark, > I am very serious about my shooting... > M9er 49er Bob > > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > >> Do you have a full frame DSLR? >> Because it would be great to do with your Leica glass what you can do with >> Canon or Nikon glass. Shoot any time of the day or night in or out doors >> without having to shoot wide open at slow speeds in split inches in >> focus.. >> Those days are really over for most shooters today. For years you can >> shoot >> savable light situations capturing the action and getting depth of field. >> Not though if you have an M9. >> And its exactly a Leica M which should be ruling those situations. Not >> DSLR'S. And that's exactly why the M9 was not embraced by pro and very >> serious shooters. >> And now with the new M they can bring that camera home to meet Mom. >> >> And photograph her at f 5.6 at 125th instead of 1.4 at a 15th.. >> >> >> On 5/17/13 7:16 AM, "Don Dory" wrote: >> >>> Mark, the thing is, I have an M9: the M9 works beautifully especially >> with the >>> lenses I have. The new M is better especially at higher ISO's but the >> Fuji is >>> much better yet. For those occasions where simple is better the Fuji >> with 35 >>> F1.4 is smaller, better in low light, and sav es $4000 that can be used >> for >>> other puposes. So, I already have the Roller but can justify a Subaru >> to take >>> out on salt infested New England backroads. >>> >>> Sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon 4GLTE >>> >>> ------Original Message------ >>> From: Mark Rabiner >>> To: "Leica Users Group" >>> Date: Friday, May 17, 2013 6:14:50 AM GMT-0400 >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] To tempt Fuji X users? >>> >>> For those who are " thinking about my order for the M240 vs. the X >> series." >>> Kind of sounds like one is in the middle of really financing a seven >> grand >>> full frame M but then somehow looking over at the $1400 1.5 crop Fuji in >> the >>> same breath? >>> Here's what I came up with: >>> $7000 - $1400 = $5600.00 savings >>> And also: >>> $7000/$1400 = 5.0 >>> >>> So if you last minute having saved seven grand for the M but then get >> the X >>> instead you have $5600 burning a hole in your back pocket that can buy >> you >>> exactly four more X's. >>> That's quite a discrepancy of dreams! >>> ... Or an extra lens and a trip around the world. >>> >>> Its like "oh boy I get to finally buy that Rolls Royce now but maybe that >>> Honda Civic will also get me there?" >>> Or as we say in the US of A: apples and oranges. >>> Or lets say you saved up to get a Harley motorcycle but then got a tuna >> fish >>> sandwich instead? Lots of left over here too for extras: >>> Tomatoes >>> Cheese. >>> Lettuce. >>> Pickles >>> Rye bread. >>> >>> I'm afraid I'm just not seeing the overlap between M dreams and X dreams. >>> To me they just don't belong in the same rapid eye movement cycle. >>> At very least there's a full tuna on rye separating them. >>> >>> >>> On 5/16/13 9:51 PM, "Don Dory" wrote: >>> >>>> If we are talking about the Fuji X series, the 35mm 1.4 is an excellent >>>> lens. Pretty close focusing and very closely integrated with the >> "brains" >>>> of the XPro to be very low vignette and really pretty flat field. >> Results >>>> at 1600 were very good noise wise. Just my two cents thinking about my >>>> order for the M240 vs the X series. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Peter Dzwig >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Voigt 40/1.4 at $449? I think you've said that you have the M-adapter. >>>>> >>>>> Peter >>>>> >>>>> On 16/05/2013 19:27, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: >>>>>> My guess is that they wanted to sell enough X100and now X100s before >>>>> releasing the lens on its own. >>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16-May-2013, at 11:46 PM, Steve Barbour >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 16, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj < >> jayanand at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, I have that, and that is what I generally use, but a fast 35mm >>>>> would be perfect for the streets! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> patience, coming soon from several sources >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16-May-2013, at 11:27 PM, Peter Dzwig >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There's the Fujinon 18 - 55 zoom. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 15/05/2013 11:09, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Way too expensive compared to Fuji's excellent offerings. They >> cannot >>>>>>>>>> be worth that much of a premium. In fact I just ordered the Fuji >>>>> 14mm, >>>>>>>>>> after seeing the disparity in price with the Zeiss. I am paying >> the >>>>>>>>>> equivalent of US$750 for the 14mm. Now, if they had the sense to >>>>>>>>>> release a 23mm - the gaping hole in Fuji's line up - it might have >>>>>>>>>> been different, I would have been sorely tempted. >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Gerry Walden < >> gerry.walden at me.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Just seen these lovely lenses from Zeiss. Bit pricey but should >> be >>>>> superb! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Carl_Zeiss_Touit_12mm_f2-8/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gerry >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden >>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or >>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 >>>>>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> =========================================================== >>>>>>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> =========================================================== >>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photography >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > -- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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