Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/02
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Tina On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote: > I did that: > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/146447879 > > Converted with Silver Efex from > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/146427043 > > Compared to MM > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/146427044 > > I prefer the MM. > > Tina > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote: > >> It would be interesting to see a comparison of the same picture done a) >> with a Monochrome and b) with an M9 and converted to B&W with the best >> software, which I assume is probably not LR. >> >> Herbert Kanner >> kanner at acm.org >> 650-326-8204 >> >> Question authority and the authorities will question you. >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 1, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > On Friday I went to Samy's in Los Angeles where they had just received >> > their demo M. I was able to play with it for about 1-1/2 hours using my >> > lenses and SD card, but just inside the store in the Leica section. >> What I >> > noted was: >> > >> > Good: >> > 1. The smoothness of the shutter is wonderful. No "kick" back on my >> > finger, like in the M8 and to a lesser degree the M9. Buttery, quiet >> and no >> > noticeable lag. EXTREMELY impressed! >> > 2. The averaging (matrix) metering mode works very well. I had it on >> the >> > classic mode for some shots and the highlights were blown because there >> was >> > a lot of black wall which metered gray. On the new "Advanced" mode it >> > figured this out and I got a decent histogram. >> > 3. The rangefinder is crisp and accurate. Lines were white for mine >> and >> > easy to see/use. >> > 4. The files are bigger (duh) >> > 5. The shutter response time, when not using live view/focus peaking, >> > seemed faster than the M9. It was certainly noticeably quieter. >> > 6. With live view, when you turn the lens to focus, the live view >> goes to >> > the same magnification level (0, 5X or 10X) that you last used. >> > 7. Live view, through the EVF, does show depth of field. >> > 8. Nice LCD screen on the back, though I would not use it except to >> see >> > the histogram... >> > 9. The camera feels very nice in your hands. Definitely a Leica M. The >> > thumb ridge is great. >> > 10. Base plate is much sturdier; not tinny as on the M9. >> > >> > Not so good: >> > 1. Focus peaking did not work for me on eyes. For portraits of non >> moving >> > folks, you can use live view to see your focus on the eyes, >> etc.(especially >> > magnified 5 or 10X) and also see your DOF, but no focus peeking >> indicators >> > showed where the focus was. >> > 2. Live view does not magnify after turning the lens until after a >> very >> > noticeable pause; my guess is about 1 second. A real delay... >> > 3. There is a noticeable shutter release lag when using live view. >> VERY >> > noticeable. From what I've read, the shutter is open for live view and >> must >> > close and then fire. In rangefinder mode, as noted above, there is >> > absolutely no lag. >> > 4. ISO above 1600 (even 1/2 stop more at 2000) is not useful. Just a >> > really big difference between 1600 and 2000 to the dark areas showing >> large >> > blotches. >> > 5. I had trouble finding how to set EV (I usually shoot at -1/3 just >> to >> > ensure I don't blow highlights). Probably my lack of knowledge of the >> menu >> > system (which has changed), so most likely not the camera's fault... >> > >> > Conclusion: This camera is every bit an M with minor improvements FOR ME >> > over the M9, the biggest of which is the sensor size. Live view seems >> to be >> > made for movie making (which I did not test and would not use) or >> > landscapes. Not for street/family shooting. The shutter is sweet. The >> ISO >> > performance minimally improved. Though I was excited about the camera, >> > especially using Live View with focus peeking to shoot my family and >> street >> > work, it basically is not usable, IMO, for that. The larger sensor does >> > nothing for me as this is not my landscape camera. Most likely when my >> > number comes up on various dealers' lists to buy the M, I won't. >> > >> > Of course I have specific uses for my Ms. For my needs, the >> improvements I >> > saw did not warrant the cost of a replacement for my M9. >> > >> > Then I tested a Monochrom... I'm trying not to think about what I >> > experienced to save my marriage... >> > >> > Just thought I'd pass this along. Happy to answer any questions. >> > Bob >> > >> > -- >> > Bob Adler >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > -- > Tina Manley > http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > -- Tina Manley http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com