Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mark, I sometimes shoot with my first digital purchase, a Fujifilm F10, which only produces jpeg images. I use the "Open As" command when I pull them up in PSE 11, which allows me to open them in ACR. There are enough tools available to make any necessary changes. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji XE-1 >I think this is the crux of the issue all along and is understood, Herbert. > In this argument though when we read "Jpeg" we are assuming I think > correctly that its "jpegs right out of the camera". But the fact that ACR* > opens up a jpeg just like it would a NEF or DNG Raw somehow gets lost in > the shuffle. Perhaps its because most who shoot jpegs don't do this. They > go > right out of the camera with their jpegs; No ACR. Its the point of > shooting > a jpeg. Hard disk space is cheap and SD or Compact flash cards are dirt > cheap. But I'd think a few may. They must. > > ACR* > Adobe camera raw filter in Lightroom or Bridge or Photoshop. > > > On 6/5/13 7:36 PM, "Herbert Kanner" <kanner at acm.org> wrote: > >> There is an aspect of this debate which has not been addressed. Namely, >> of all >> the corrections available in, say Lightroom, just what limitations exist >> on >> what Lightroom can do to alter a camera-produced jpeg compared to what LR >> can >> do to the RAW from the same image. >> >> Herbert Kanner >> kanner at acm.org >> 650-326-8204 >> >> Question authority and the authorities will question you? >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:40 AM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> >> wrote: >> >>> What are you willing to die for? >>> "the concept of only photographing in RAW mode." >>> >>> I wonder if the RAW ARMY is also willing to kill for the idea? >>> >>> I only shoot RAW. Though if my life depended on delivering a .jpg out of >>> a >>> camera - I'd deliver the .jpg. >>> >>> In reality: It's obviously very possible to develop software to: >>> preserve >>> highlight and shadow detail; provide a deep, rich dmax; and provide any >>> other >>> parameters one desires. >>> >>> The only reasons to drag a RAW FILE through a RAW processor: 1) to see >>> if an >>> other than "normal" rendering may be preferred; a delightful and >>> potentially >>> creative process to be sure; and one I have always enjoyed. 2) to "save" >>> an >>> under or over exposed, or poorly lit file. >>> >>> a note off the iPad, George >>> >>> On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:02 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A kind who would >>>> never shoot a jpeg if his life depended on it. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >