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Subject: [Leica] Buying Leica.....
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:06:54 -0500
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Hi George,

You see things much the way that I do.  I bought my first Leica body and 
lens in 1952, probably much earlier than most on this list.  Though the IIIa 
was made in 1935, it had been serviced and had a new shutter when I got it. 
Though it definitely needs a CLA, it will make images, reliably, to this 
day.  That is what started my appreciation of Leica products.

Their digital products seem to be built for a limited lifetime.  The two 
lines are entirely different, as I see them.  I have a difficult time 
"buying into" their current approach to digital camera bodies.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Lottermoser" <imagist3 at mac.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Buying Leica.....


>
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 5:25 PM, John McMaster wrote:
>
>> With hindsight I would still go Leica, nothing to touch the lenses for 
>> different looks and I prefer the simpler operation, but if I had not used 
>> them what would make me spend 'rather a lot' more on Leica than Fuji? 
>> Does 'full frame' or the build quality make enough of a difference for 
>> the price jump to most people?
>
> The piece of this "to Leica or not to Leica" quandary that throws me
> is the relatively recent "lack of reliability and maintenance."
> For over 30 years I KNEW that my Leicas would stand up to daily use;
> be able to be CLA'd and maintained for the duration of my life.
>
> When the digital R path ended abruptly - doubt set in.
>
> Recent stories of lack of parts or repair paths for 5 year old cameras
> seems totally unacceptable for "any" camera company;
> let alone a high end, premium camera company.
>
> I expected that, what ever its flaws may be, that I could keep my M8
> making photographs for as long as I chose to hang on to it;
> just like every other Leica camera that came before it.
>
> The idea that $7K camera bodies are simply disposable hardware
> with a useable life of a two year warranty - feels totally unacceptable to 
> me.
> If not unacceptable - certainly unaffordable - to me.
>
> I'm coming from that place where the 50 year old Linhof Tech IV
> I just sold works every bit as well the day I handed it to Forrest
> as the day it left the factory.
>
> This whole new device, whether computer, camera body, phone
> whatever - simply feels quite "wrong."
>
> I welcome technological advances and their concomitant costs;
> while also expecting that if I choose to remain a couple generations back;
> that high priced hardware continue to perform somewhere close to specs;
> and be designed for adjustment back to original specs.
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
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