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Subject: [Leica] Re; Accidental photojournalist
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:51:17 -0400
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Herbert -

This might help:

http://www.alamy.com/contributor/help/sell-images.asp

I've been leasing stock since 1980.  The stock market slumped considerably
after RF and Micro-stock started taking over the market, but things have
improved quite a bit lately with some really good prices.  My average is
back up to about where it was 10 years ago, thank goodness.  I know people
with Alamy who make over $25,000 a month, but they have many more photos up
than I do.

Hope this helps.

Tina


On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:

> I would like some enlightenment on how stock photography works. I had been
> under the impression that it is no longer a viable source of income because
> of the existence of a population equipped with cameras on their phones.
> Then, I read Tina's piece about income from stock photography, including
> mention of a student of her's who quit a job because of stock photography
> income; this appeared to be a current event. Also, as a docent at the
> Computer History Museum, I met a school teacher who told me that a
> substantial part of his income was stock photography.
>
> So, if any of you has the patience to explain to me a bit about how it
> works, or to refer me to a web site that would explain, I'd appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Herb
>
> Herbert Kanner
> kanner at acm.org
> 650-326-8204
>
> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:50 AM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:20 PM, lrzeitlin at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> For every artist who is exhibited, I know 10 equally talented artists
> who never found an outlet. Look at the LUG. The Gallery is replete with
> excellent photographs, most taken by "non-professionals" whose pictures
> will be seen only by close friends and on the web. Ted, Tina, and some few
> others have managed to break the barrier but there are plenty of other
> LUGGERS whose work is equally as good.
> >>
> >>
> >> In my day if you wanted to get paid for taking pictures, you did one of
> two things. You worked for a media outlet, newspaper or magazine, or you
> tried to establish an independent freelance or "professional" business.
> While some "professionals" managed to live quite nicely, most barely
> scraped by or failed completely. I bought most of my cameras from failed
> professionals. Sometimes "security" is better than starving.
> >
> > Larry,
> >
> > We seem to be talking past one another a bit; not unusual as we've had
> different experiences.
> >
> > I began my visual art career at 14, in 1960, as an assistant in a
> successful commercial studio.
> > The studio catered to Advertising Agency and Corporate Clients.
> > Between 1967 and 1972 or 3 I earned my living, and my way through college
> > as a free lance photo journalist, and graphic designer, selling to local
> newspapers and magazines.
> >
> > Since 1973 and through the late 90s I managed to earn fairly well doing
> a combination of;
> > editorial photography, corporate photography and graphic design, gallery
> shows and print sales.
> >
> > Each of those markets has had its ups and downs over the years and
> decades.
> >
> > In every case protection of the right to use and license the work
> remained important;
> > not only to me but to all of my peers working in photography,
> illustration and graphic design.
> > At the height of my career I was a member of both ASMP and the Graphic
> Artists Guild.
> > Both organizations have worked tirelessly at protecting and valuing
> creative work.
> >
> > My first wife, of 25 years, also made a good living as a fine art
> painter.
> > I have many friends who are professional artists, photographers,
> painters, sculptors, metal workers, and musicians.
> > I know how the art markets have worked historically as well as currently.
> >
> > Tina's career or mine or many others do not fit the model that you seem
> feel is the only rigid view of how things worked
> > "in your day" "my day" or "to day."
> >
> > We could discuss any creative market in terms of blue chip international
> "history book" success,
> > regional success and/or local success;
> > as well as several other parameters and paradigms.
> >
> > Regards,
> > George Lottermoser
> > george at imagist.com
> > http://www.imagist.com
> > http://www.imagist.com/blog
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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-- 
Tina Manley
http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com


Replies: Reply from kanner at acm.org (Herbert Kanner) ([Leica] Re; Accidental photojournalist)
In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at aol.com (lrzeitlin at aol.com) ([Leica] Re; Accidental photojournalist)
Message from imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser) ([Leica] Re; Accidental photojournalist)
Message from kanner at acm.org (Herbert Kanner) ([Leica] Re; Accidental photojournalist)