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Subject: [Leica] Light and shadows
From: jsmith342 at gmail.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:05:22 -0500
References: <EBB4A12A-2843-4D54-AE5C-EDBB147FF3DD@gmail.com> <98AD3ADFB7FF406EAF7A0685902FBFFE@syneticfeba505> <B6455BE4-683D-41FD-A023-7E1FF64DB1F5@gmail.com> <BA993115-731B-40EC-B68E-A7A765A822D8@gmail.com> <F7B5FD18-E0B9-4DBE-AA13-A38F251C9176@gmail.com> <0146490E-947A-4159-93AF-94B92F7A269D@me.com>

No, that's what bogged me down as well. The same thing happened to me in 
books about Otto Klemperer and Glenn Gould. I guess I've been spoiled by 
gratuitous sex and violence these days.

Jeffery


On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at me.com> wrote:

> I also have HCB's biography but have failed to read through it. It is not 
> the most 'readable' book I have ever come across, and I found it 
> particularly heavy going. Maybe just me of course.
> 
> Gerry
> 
> Gerry Walden
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> On 31 Jul 2013, at 16:40, Jeffery Smith <jsmith342 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> In the documentary about HCB, he speaks (in halting English) about the 
>> concept, and seems to be describing more of "on the fly" than the 
>> decisive moment. As I recall, he treats the idea as having the instinct 
>> of when to pull the trigger, so to speak, rather than any sort of careful 
>> preparation. 
>> 
>> I have HCB's biography, but haven't started reading it yet. 
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollquerol at 
>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Ted,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you very much for your very kind words and to have take the time 
>>>> to wrote it. Your opinion is "humble" according to your great human 
>>>> personality, but  always a Master Class! you are right, the first photo 
>>>> is the best. I've catch the boy completely "a la sauvette" (cut)
>>> 
>>> ******
>>> Lluis, Ted, friends of the LUG, my friends,
>>> 
>>> this phrase used by Lluis is of course from the title of Cartier 
>>> Bresson's famous book. These words have often troubled me,  what is the 
>>> real meaning of this phrase......?
>>> 
>>> perhaps something like ,     on the fly...    unguarded, unauthorized, 
>>> without permission, spontaneous....   who can really say ?
>>> 
>>> the title  "Images a la sauvette"    has been translated as "the 
>>> decisive moment",  but this, almost certainly, is at best, a very loose 
>>> translation, possibly a title selected out of commercial motivations, 
>>> even so it has assumed a most profound significance in the world of 
>>> photography.
>>> 
>>> Surely we can do better, what does it really mean ?   why? Does it tell 
>>> us something about the way HCB worked ?
>>> 
>>> Please give me your thoughts on this....The answer to these questions, 
>>> might bring us to the motivations, the methodology of Henri Cartier 
>>> Bresson, one of our most iconic photographers.... 
>>> 
>>> Steve Barbour
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I was just preparing my camera when the boy appeared in front of me and 
>>>> followed your frequent advice KISS! and I've remembered you after 
>>>> shooting it! After this one I went to shoot two more shots of the 
>>>> shadows but I'm not able to be at one place waiting for the opportunity 
>>>> and I've quit the place soon.
>>>> 
>>>> About the Leica..., the thing is that I think I will be really not able 
>>>> to use any other camera, I can't use the cameras with monitor or too 
>>>> many automatic devices, I'm really happy that Leica has continued his 
>>>> design with digital cameras.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again for the kind words
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Lluis 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> El 29/07/2013, a las 21:18, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> <tedgrant at shaw.ca> 
>>>> escribi?:
>>>> 
>>>>> Lluis Ripoll showed:
>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Light and shadows
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/L1033671BN.jpg.html>
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/El_Raval/L1033673BN.jpg.html>
>>>>>>> Leica M8, Summilux 35mm pre
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Lluis,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Leica Master at it again (My God someone actually using a Leica 
>>>>> Camera for a change!!!!)  With light and shadows!!! :-) No question, 
>>>>> the little boy is by far the better of the two. Actually in a hard 
>>>>> nose critique I don't think the man and shadow in the second photo 
>>>>> rates being there when you compare both.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I believe you should've posted only the boy. My humble opinion dear 
>>>>> friend! ;-) ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, in posting both you give us options on which is the better! 
>>>>> :-)
>>>>> As I see, a few others have picked the boy also.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But the big thing for me is someone posting photos shot with a LEICA 
>>>>> CAMERA! Rather than all these strange others with funny names and 
>>>>> numbers!!! And as it appears with a great deal of inbreeding of lenses 
>>>>> and adapters to make them work! :-) ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Really gentlemen and ladies, it's almost blasphemy to call this the 
>>>>> LUG any longer considering the mish mash of funny techie cameras being 
>>>>> bantered about!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once again, just my humble opinion as the world turns and changes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However I believe Lluis will always be our Leica savior! ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> ted
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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