Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/09/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Certainly true. I have the 17-35 2.8 and the 70-210/2.8 V1, both of which are considered by most denizens of the net as something not fit for their grandparents. I will argue the point and can show large prints to prove mine. I would get either and be happy. I also have the current version of the 24-120 and it produces fine results as well. Of course this is for those who like to take photos and print them for viewing. If you shoot photos for the purpose of carefully examining at 100% pixels tirelessly, which I don't think you do, all bets are off. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Frank Filippone Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:23 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] OT. Nikon screen brightness and contrast Thanks for the inputs. While Zeiss glass is good, weight/ FL range goals can not be achieved without zoom lenses Frank Filippone On Sep 17, 2013, at 9:55 AM, "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote: > All lenses have strengths and weaknesses. The Zeiss lenses are superb, > with perhaps more resolving power than the Leica equivalents and certainly > more contrast. Colors from the Zeiss lenses pop in a way unlike any other > lenses. Many Nikon lenses are also quite good in a very unlike Leica way. > Nikkors seem to me to be somewhere near to the Zeiss lenses, but with more > flare and a bit softer. At least the Leica lenses I have, like me several > generations away from state of the art, are certainly sharp, but without > the dramatic contrast of the Zeiss lenses. I will say that although I love > my M9, I have some photos from my D3 that measure up quite well. > > -----Original Message----- From: Frank Filippone > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:52 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] OT. Nikon screen brightness and contrast > > Every point you made is correct. If I can prove to myself that the lenses > are acceptable, I can take the next step: rent/ buy/borrow a D800e and > test system vs system. > > What I have not directly said is that I am skeptical the Nikon optics will > hold up to a comparison with Leica. So I am starting at the weakest and > (luckily) least costly point. Work my way up from there. > Note that while the Nikon offers more pixels, i believe it is the FW > algorithms that make a significantly bigger difference to IQ. IMO the > Major contribution. The reality is that the FW works on all lenses. Better > quality optics reflect in better IQ in the same FW environment. IMO, > the DMR, with Imacon ( think I have that right) FW is a big/ biggest > difference to why the DNR has great IQ. (And why the Hasselblad line is so > highly regarded in MF). > > Thank you Doug for challenging my technique. Keep me on target. > Frank Filippone > > On Sep 17, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> > wrote: > >> Frank Filippone wrote: >> >> Good input Doug. Thought long and hard about the point you are making. >> The problem is that to test using a D800e would require a $3k investment. >> <<< >> >> Rentals are a good way to dip your toes in the water. >> >> The adapter is basically an empty tube. No IQ effect. >> <<< >> >> If it's the proper thinkness and the front & back surfaces are parallel >> >> I also believe the increased resolution of the Nikon and the absence of >> the IR filter will show the Nikon body to have of increased IQ compared >> to the Leica. >> <<< >> >> Best to verify this assumption. There's more to image quality than the >> number of pixels, as DMR users have been saying for years. >> >> Doug Herr >> Birdman of Sacramento >> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information