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Subject: [Leica] Using Leica lenses on the Sony 7 and 7R
From: lew1716 at gmail.com (Lew Schwartz)
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:44:48 -0500
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2 comments:

Focus peeking seems to fall off at small apertures

Metabones adapters are avail that preserve auto-focus on some Canon &
Minolta lenses.
-Lew Schwartz


On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> 
wrote:
> I went to Samys to play with one yesterday....  There were plenty in stock
> of each model.
>
> My review is for ergonomics and overall fit and feel.. I leave the image
> characteristics to someone else....  I was/am not interested in owning
> native mount lenses, so I didn't try any out to any extent.  I will not
> comment on native lens line availability ( as there is none).
>
> Good stuff:  The camera is small ( estimated 90% of the size of an
> M-anything) and light ( maybe 60% of the weight of a M9), the sound it 
> makes
> is not bad, adapters were available in the store for Nikon and Leica ( and
> probably more), the VF is really nice and bright and contrasty, the x10 VF
> magnification did not introduce a significant delay in shutter response, 
> the
> VF was quickly responsive  Nice balance with short LEICA lenses.  Focus 
> with
> even an F8 lens was pretty easy inside the store.  The EVF is absolutely a
> great feature.  Focus peaking ( in yellow or red) was easy, to say the
> least.  A great camera for low light levels and accurate focus.  VF
> brightness was constant regardless of ambient light in the scene.
>
>
> Bad stuff and why.....
> Camera is so light and plasticy that it feels like a $129 P+S.
> It will probably not balance well with any long or heavy lens.. it will be
> quite front heavy.  ( Nocti, 75 Lux, 90 AA, 135, etc.)
> Because of the light mass, there is a lessened amount of mass to kill
> vibration and noise from the moving shutter mechanism.
> There is no feeling of bulk, heftiness, solidity etc.  Even a Nikon D200 (
> $250 used in the Samys case) feels more solid.
> Too many dials buttons and controls for a newcomer to become comfortable
> with immediately....   And probably too much camera if you are going to use
> it as I would:  MF lenses, x1 and x10 VF.  Quite a difference to an M3 or
> Nikon F.  Not intuitive.
> While I am hardly familiar with the controls, the embedded menu has a bunch
> of sub-menus.  And sub-sub menus.  Getting to the one control you want is
> going to be a memory test.
> If you have large hands, you will find no place to put your fingers on this
> camera,  It is pretty small, and thin....  There may be a solution to this 
> (
> accessory handles) but I did not inquire.
> When using a Nikon adapter, the camera/lens combo ( 50 1.4 G lens) feels
> even more front heavy than with a 50 Lux.  The lens is way out there.
> I did not check out the lens mount, but I personally would not put a 
> 300/2.8
> on the camera, and then proceed to carry the combo from the body lugs or
> tripod screw on the body....!
>
> Note:  There were lots of comments on how any adapter should be from
> Novoflex or Metabones to keep alignment to the gnats eyelashes.  However,
> Samys did have cheap Chinese adapters available...  Having seen the
> different adapters, forget the Novoflex and go for the Metabones for Nikon 
> G
> lenses.  The aperture adjustment mechanism is quite superior.
>
> Note: the $69 Chinese M adapter would not click lock the lens to the
> adapter.... the lens was free to rotate ( off the camera to the floor) so I
> did not actually try a M lens on the body.  I pointed this out to the
> salesman, he put the DEFECTIVE adapter back in stock... !
>
> Now you are probably wondering overall what I thought of the camera... A
> absolutely beautiful M9 or M(240) replacement. Maybe the perfect Digi-M. 
> For
> MY long Nikon lenses, which tend to be fast and therefore  heavy, and 
> large,
> I am not so sure....
>
> And, for those that must have an optical VF in any M body, grow up.  It is
> only a VF.  Optical or otherwise.   Embrace the future.
>
> Went home without spending a dime.... for now, but one is in my
> future....maybe in a year or so....
>
> YMMV
>
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
>
>
>
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Replies: Reply from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] Using Leica lenses on the Sony 7 and 7R)
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