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Subject: [Leica] IMG: House of Cheer and Hope, II
From: skalte at icloud.com (Susan Ryan)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:05:28 -0700
References: <CA+yJO1DZpBVcfT3r79T+oyD1xu-1=gSNVXNPvgaP0pGnJe4AtQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAH1UNJ2ZKcOV+xLeNEEd9TNC5oitdJ2Oxpra+MKVVWWAZ2ABjQ@mail.gmail.com> <77F45946A1E3440D9C1E7ED22C3E3BC8@syneticfeba505> <CAH1UNJ1P+ePONnpY=8S3pGBhsCUATFyh4P8twjZyeH2Fb7xhAA@mail.gmail.com> <C0EEB497-3FB3-4718-B13D-1C7F24D0F8EB@gmail.com>

The woman does not look happy or comfortable. My repeated instructions to my 
husband are "Feeding tube, no. Backrubs, yes."

The light is lovely, though. Kind of surprised to see it was taken during 
your Canon era. 

Sue

> On Feb 17, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A close friend of mine, who is a very prominent surgeon here, always
>> reiterates that modern medicine does not allow anyone to die with
>> dignity...
> 
> 
> I believe that is correct Jay. Once personal wishes and choice are not 
> accorded to the dying person, their dignity has been stripped away. 
> 
> 
> steve
> 
> 
> 
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:26 AM,  <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> Jayanand Govindaraj mon ami,
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: House of Cheer and Hope, II
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Dynamic framing..
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jayanand
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The framing might be dynamic ! However if in my case I should be bundled 
>>> in
>>> a bed without being the least bit mobile I would trust someone would 
>>> give me
>>> the "black magic pill" and for heaven sake have mercy on my soul and let 
>>> me
>>> go!" To wherever that maybe?
>>> 
>>> Just don't leave me in some semi-communicated state dying slowly day by 
>>> day
>>> sitting or lying on a bed being kept breathing with machines and pills! 
>>> HELL
>>> NO I WONT GO THAT WAY!
>>> 
>>> Hell we have far more mercy toward animals and critters!
>>> 
>>> But we humans???????? Why we'll work almost forever attempting to keep 
>>> Mom
>>> or Dad alive. And many do that without any thought what the patient is 
>>> going
>>> through mentally? Even though they may never speak a word again ! THE 
>>> TRUTH
>>> IS? Get over it! They're dying! Let them go mercifully and quickly! They 
>>> are
>>> never going to walk out of the hospital and be... "NORMAL WHATEVER YOU 
>>> MAY
>>> THINK AND WISH!"
>>> 
>>> No I'm not being mean and unlovable toward "dying humans?" If they are, 
>>> let
>>> them have as much comfort as they pass away. But for heaven sake don't 
>>> keep
>>> them alive just for the sake they're lying there some how breathing with 
>>> the
>>> assistance of machinery when they mentally have no idea what day or who 
>>> you
>>> are!
>>> 
>>> Live the memories of past and appreciate the times you had.
>>> 
>>> But when a "human is going?" Just let them go as quickly, quietly and
>>> painlessly as possible. You'll, if you are lucky will see them on the 
>>> other
>>> side if that is in your beliefs of whatever?
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr. ted
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> PESO:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I sent this one this morning and could not believe that I have had no
>>>>> comments on it.  Then I checked the sent mail and discovered that I had
>>>>> sent it Tom instead of the group:
>>>>> 
>>>>> PESO:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The director of the nursing home took me to several rooms and asked me 
>>>>> to
>>>>> photograph the people for their relatives who were not able to visit:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/image/154522521
>>>>> 
>>>>> C&C greatly appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tina
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tina Manley
>>>>> http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com
>>>>> 
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In reply to: Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] IMG: House of Cheer and Hope, II)
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