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Subject: [Leica] More on film
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 20:23:14 -0500
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Lluis,

Good luck, your images deserve the best.

Best,

Ken

On 7/2/2014 7:42 PM, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
> Ken,
>
> Thank you very much for very kind comment.
>
> It was a while I was not shooting film, I was very happy with the 
> developing quality of this Lab, they was using X-Tol, I didn?t know that 
> they have changed? and now I think they have ruined these negatives?, I 
> will take a look to another very reputed Lab and if I?m not sure I will 
> follow your advice.
>
> Thank you very much again!
>
> Cheers!
> Lluis
>
>
>
> El 03/07/2014, a las 02:27, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> escribi?:
>
>> Lluis,
>>
>> Just me, but if I had a talent like yours I would never let anyone 
>> develop my film.  Every time I have had a lab develop silver film it has 
>> been a mistake (OK, I don't have HCB's assistants handy).  C41 and E6, 
>> yes, b&w, no.  I had problems with water quality also. But, we were lucky 
>> to have a plant here bottling "mineral" water (Ozarka brand).  They 
>> brought water up from their well, distilled it, and then added always the 
>> same amount of minerals.  I used that for developing, filtered tap water 
>> for the rest and distilled with Photo Flo for final.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> On 7/2/2014 6:52 PM, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> I?ve just said to Jayanand that today I?ve asked my Lab if they did some 
>>> changes in the developing, and yes! this explain why I was unhappy with 
>>> the quality of my last negatives.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your comment
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Lluis
>>>
>>>
>>> El 01/07/2014, a las 11:09, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>> escribi?:
>>>
>>>> Lluis,
>>>>
>>>> The point that I was making in the post that I put up a few minutes ago 
>>>> is that
>>>> I would have expected the film to give better results than digital in 
>>>> your
>>>> hands. Your film shots generally have greater depth than these ones. I 
>>>> think
>>>> that it must be the Plustek as the M3 and Summicron on TX should 
>>>> produce what
>>>> most of us would regard as "your style".
>>>>
>>>> Saludos,
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> On 24/06/2014 15:04, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Jayanand, I find very interesting your comment. Do you mean 
>>>>> that my film shots are too smooth?.  This is an interesting 
>>>>> observation, I generally like better the B&W from film just for that 
>>>>> reason, more large and smooth tonalities, I also see a difference, 
>>>>> even a big difference between my scans from my old shots developed by 
>>>>> my self and the actual ones, more ?neutral? and smooth and not 
>>>>> developed by me. The fact is that I don?t want develop any more 
>>>>> myself, the water quality has changed a lot and there are many spots 
>>>>> on my home developed films, distilled water can be the right way maybe.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will appreciate your further comments on this, I?m interested to 
>>>>> hear your opinion, thank you again
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> El 24/06/2014, a las 04:47, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at 
>>>>> gmail.com> escribi?:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rita Rouge, without a doubt, out of these three. I prefer your digital
>>>>>> offerings, at least for online viewing, they tend to have much better
>>>>>> tonal depth.
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Jayanand
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Lluis Ripoll
>>>>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Concert
>>>>>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/lluisripoll/14489019812/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leica M3, Elmarit 21, Tri X 400, plustek
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rita Rouge
>>>>>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/lluisripoll/14510359703/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leica M3, Summicron Collapsible, Tri X 400, Plustek
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Happy
>>>>>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/lluisripoll/14303792737/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leica M3, Summicron Collapsible, Tri X 400, Plustek
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are always appreciated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig                             
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