Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/07/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mark if you have not done so, take a look at the video on Vimeo of Pedro Ferreira fashion photographer using his M9 and the 50 f2 Asph Nice looking work I thought, Scott > On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > And then there is a mind set which feels an M does not belong shooting in > front of a white backdrop. Cameras can get put in little subsets of their > true capabilities. > > >> On 7/20/14 5:17 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Well you can I guess Mark and some people do. I don't want to carry a pro >> size Nikon or Canon or anything else around the street personally. >> But I have the M and great lenses anyway. >> >> >> Cheers >> Geoff >> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >> >> >>> On 21 July 2014 05:55, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >>> >>> I don't understand why you cant walk around shooting with an S2 its the >>> same >>> form follow function footprint basic size and shape and weight as a Canon >>> or >>> Nikon DSLR you could black tape the red dot and no one would be the >>> wiser.. >>> You'd not make a S outa yourself... I would also shoot the camera with >>> all >>> the auto controls I'm used to shooting with with my DSLR'S. Which is all >>> of >>> them. There is simply no reason not to. The film is bigger. That's all. >>> Oops >>> >>> I have thought of medium format being all about manual controll I started >>> out with Rollei and Hasselblad in the 70's but when the 645's hit, the >>> Mamiya 's and Pentaxes and Bronica'a came in in the 80's with full >>> exposure >>> modes and then auto focus nobody turned them off to emulate shooting >>> with a >>> Hasselblad. >>> But they didn't necessarily out shoot us either. >>> Us being die hard Hasselblad shooters. >>> >>> >>>> On 7/20/14 12:01 AM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Every frame that I will shoot with it outside will be in manual focus >>>> though. That is the way that it is generally done in the medium format >>>> world, in my part of it anyway, learning from Hasselblad and Phase One >>>> using professionals. Yes it does lock extremely quickly in the well lit >>>> studio if that helps. I haven't tried it in low light at this stage >>>> where >>>> mt D600 would typically hunt around and struggle. >>>> >>>> It's hardly a walkaround camera though, or rather you need to be >>> dedicated >>>> to do that. Its the wrong tool for travel for example in my opinion. >>>> My studio stuff well stopped down won't tell you anything about focus >>>> accuracy. >>>> >>>> Outside especially at big apertures, in closer at least, I would >>> typically >>>> be looking to focus manually on the catchlight of the nearest eye. >>>> Eyelashes are not good enough (focussed manually or AF) >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Geoff >>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 20 July 2014 13:54, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Geoff, >>>>> Not a contest, just increasing my personal knowledge on how it might >>>>> be useful to me. I am practical on my approach to kit, if I find >>>>> something that will work for me, I would buy it. As the S2 has >>>>> autofocus, it comes squarely into my usable zone. That is all the >>>>> information I was after. >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Jayanand >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at >>>>> gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Jayanand, from my perspective this isn't a contest with John and I >>> trying >>>>>> to make you want to buy a Leica Pro format camera. Nor do either of us >>>>> feel >>>>>> the need to justify why we are thrilled to have these for ourselves. >>>>>> >>>>>> Having said that there is a large difference in the output. Whether or >>>>> not >>>>>> that matters to you or anyone else for different output purposes or >>>>>> the >>>>>> large cost is justified of course is entirely up to the individual >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Geoff >>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 July 2014 13:35, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John, >>>>>>> That print size does not tax any DSLRs or Mirrorless sensors that I >>>>>>> have used in the last 5 years, either, including Micro 4/3 - and I >>>>>>> print a lot for print exchanges, in which I regularly (month in, >>>>>>> month >>>>>>> out) have been taking part for the best part of a decade. If it does >>>>>>> not tax the M 240, why did you buy the S2 as well? Just curious to >>>>>>> know where medium format output is truly useful, and where it fits in >>>>>>> for hobbyist photographers like me. >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:49 AM, John McMaster <john at >>>>>>> mcmaster.co.nz> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> 12"x18" doesn't really tax the M either... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> john >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jayanand you'll need a large print to appreciate. 12x18 in ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 20 July 2014 13:08, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any S2 owner on the list interested in doing an one on one print >>>>>>>>> exchange with me? I would really like to see the output in print! >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:32 AM, John McMaster <john at >>>>>>>>> mcmaster.co.nz >>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hardly surprising with a 1024 pixel JPEG ;-) Believe me there is a >>>>>>>>>> huge >>>>>>>>> difference when you see shots side by side... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> john >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jayanand Govindaraj >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Geoff, >>>>>>>>>> Very interesting, very well lit. I personally cannot make out >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> out of the S2 and which are out of the M 240! :-) Cheers Jayanand >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Geoff Hopkinson >>>>>>>>>> <hopsternew at gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I've started this gallery with a series of portraits, mixed work >>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>> S2 and M (typ 240) There is zero retouching, just a very lovely >>>>>>>>>>> model well prepared for camera and some beautiful studio >>>>>>>>>>> lighting. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/cd >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark William Rabiner >>> Photographer >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information