[Leica] Just Out! CMOS 6400 for my 500c Hassy

[richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)]

Bob, I think you meant 645 when you wrote 4x5 :-)


On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark,
> Beware the Siren's call...
> Phase, at admittedly higher prices, allows all their offerings to be fitted
> with HV back mounts (mine does...). The new PhaseOne IQ2XX models are CMOS.
> The IQ260 is a 6micron pixel vs the Imacon 5.3micron pixel (10% reduction
> in light capturing ability). The IQ260 is true 4x5; not quite 6x6 but a
> much reduced crop factor.
>
>
> http://www.phaseone.com/en/Camera-Systems/IQ2-Series/IQ2-Specifications.aspx
>
> And I would suggest you read some about actual user experiences with CMOS
> MFDBs. What is realistic ISO (not the marketing dept.). How do you
> calibrate the camera to the back to ensure that what you see in the
> viewfinder as in focus really is? Of course sharpness may not really matter
> with handheld Hassy shooting (previously mentioned slap). What is the max
> exposure time (12min Imacon, 1hr Phase) for those long, hand held shots!
> ;-)
>
> Definitely try before you buy! You have had MFDB 4x5 for the Hassy out
> there for years. Yes CMOS is great, but is it in MF? I think the jury may
> still be out on that one...
> Looking forward to seeing your results!!! :-)
> Bob
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I've shot all kinds of events and weddings with my Hasselblad with stuff
> > going as fast breaking  and tense as the war in El Salvador or any street
> > riot.. Like about 80 of them.  I did another 80 before that with Nikons.
> > The shots I've gotten with square format chest held are just as
> spontaneous
> > grabbers as my eye level slrs. Which is part of the reason I switched to
> > medium format for that stuff.
> > I think the work just out of Vivian Maier reminds us what is possible
> with
> > chest held medium format shooting. Dianne Arbus before her. And others.
> > Guys
> > even!
> > They don't care you are shooting. You can get everything.
> >
> > But in the old days of film our Hassy' s and Rolleis were not stuck with
> > medium speed film in them. while the Nikon and Leica guys got theirs with
> > 400 or 1600 film stuck in them. if that was the case there's have been a
> > lot
> > less work done with the larger format cameras.
> > That WAS the case here with digital.
> > Till this year. And today for my trusty 500c. And ELM.
> >
> >
> > On 7/21/14 9:18 PM, "George Lottermoser" <george.imagist at icloud.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I think not but you're welcome to have a go at it ;~)
> > >
> > > Having shot Hasselblads for 5 decades with films up to 3200 ASA;
> > > we both know that 3.5 whatever on the 500c will not shoot "just like
> > I've been
> > > shooting with my D700."
> > >
> > > Just as handling the Leica S2 or S does not equate to handling a Nikon
> or
> > > Canon DSLR:
> > > however alike they may appear next to each other on a fine walnut desk.
> > >
> > > Physics and optical science will get in the way of those fantasies.
> > > Just as they did in the days of film.
> > >
> > > And your 100 mm will behave more like a 170 mm.
> > > That mirror slap will continue to wage it's war on stillness.
> > >
> > > a note off the iPad, George
> > >
> > > On Jul 21, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Well those are not CMOS which are the big news for  potential digital
> > medium
> > >> format users as previously we had severe very low iso limitations
> > making any
> > >> of our digital medium format options not all around shooters but
> catalog
> > >> shooters with tripods and lights. Now I can take my 500c out with my
> > 100mm
> > >> f3.5 CFi  Planar  T* or my 50mm and shoot just like I've been shooting
> > with
> > >> my D700.
> > >
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