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Subject: [Leica] Any recommendations prints on gatorboard?
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:36:53 -0500

It all adds up though. The frame sets, board, tape, photo paper, chemistry,
time and case of champagne.
I've probably hung a dozen shows of about twenty prints each.
Normally from 16x20 inch sometimes 11x14 and once 20x24 inch prints.
I calculate how many prints I'd have to sell to recoup my investment in
materials. I'd have to see at least a couple. And I never did. But that
should change.

I started out in Portland Oregon with a lot of photographers my age getting
out of school and we all were very friendly and exchanged information (at
first) and we all vowed we'd continue having fine art shows well into our
commercial careers. Only a couple of us did that I was one of them.
Its time consuming and expensive.
But its a great PR thing you get interviewed in the papers and so on.
But to many of us photography just became a business..
Some of us started out with a fine art slant though. They all starved to
death.

On 12/30/14 8:36 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote:

> With a free* radial arm saw and scrap hardwoods making custom frames isn't
> expensive or difficult, and if the image doesn't sell swap the print for 
> one
> that does sell.  Archival mat board is a little over $10 for a 32" x 40"
> sheet.  The only real expense is the glass.
> 
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
> 
> *mostly
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>> Sent: Dec 30, 2014 4:07 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Any recommendations prints on gatorboard?
>> 
>> Excellent idea. If you think your work is so good that they will sell at
>> $100,000 after you are long dead at Sotheby's, then by all mean only print
>> on most archival materials or silver gelatin or albumen...
>> 
>> Otherwise, people now look at photographs as decorations, even if it is
>> fine arts. You don't have to play in the market,but if you do, anything
>> that makes a good presentation without paying a framer $300 is a good 
>> idea.
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think this might have possibilities.  More:
>>> 
>>> http://www.jaywatson.com/blog/2010/04/16/float-mounting-photos/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/29/2014 11:27 PM, Bob Adler wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well I'm going to start getting back into printing and mounting in
>>>> January. I think I'm going to expand on an idea of Paul Roark's and just
>>>> mount on archival matte or gator board with, perhaps a protective spray.
>>>> Stick that on a wall.
>>>> 
>>>> I like to photograph and print. I don't like to frame with
>>>> plexiglass/glass fronts and make frames. Diy framing is a PITA. PAYING
>>>> someone  to do large prints is outrageously expensive.
>>>> 
>>>> I just don't really care what the "art world" calls standard. The 
>>>> framers
>>>> get the money if it sells or not, and I get a few hundred bucks if one
>>>> sells and am stuck with the costs of the other frames. If a viewer 
>>>> doesn't
>>>> like the freaking frame the print won't sell. I know this from 
>>>> experience.
>>>> 
>>>> So there it will be; a bare assed print. Sells or not but only the cost
>>>> of the print and board. Plus you really see the print. It's as intimate 
>>>> as
>>>> it gets. Books are tempting too but you can't go wall sized.
>>>> 
>>>> And more time for capturing light. Conventional standards don't benefit
>>>> the photographer or enhance the interaction of the viewer one bit: only
>>>> benefits the framers and gallery owners who couldn't care a less about 
>>>> the
>>>> image: only if it sells.
>>>> 
>>>> Fighting a cold so please forgive any grouchiness. I may not sell
>>>> anything but I won't go broke in the process. And if presentation is the
>>>> primary factor for a print selling, well that certainly ain't very
>>>> satisfying!
>>>> G'nite all. :-)
>>>> 
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