Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/12/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Is $6.5 million for a Peter Lik fine arts? It's not commercial as he didn't shoot it for any particular client. Anyway, I am all for "more time for photo making." On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > It all adds up though. The frame sets, board, tape, photo paper, chemistry, > time and case of champagne. > I've probably hung a dozen shows of about twenty prints each. > Normally from 16x20 inch sometimes 11x14 and once 20x24 inch prints. > I calculate how many prints I'd have to sell to recoup my investment in > materials. I'd have to see at least a couple. And I never did. But that > should change. > > I started out in Portland Oregon with a lot of photographers my age getting > out of school and we all were very friendly and exchanged information (at > first) and we all vowed we'd continue having fine art shows well into our > commercial careers. Only a couple of us did that I was one of them. > Its time consuming and expensive. > But its a great PR thing you get interviewed in the papers and so on. > But to many of us photography just became a business.. > Some of us started out with a fine art slant though. They all starved to > death. > > On 12/30/14 8:36 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote: > > > With a free* radial arm saw and scrap hardwoods making custom frames > isn't > > expensive or difficult, and if the image doesn't sell swap the print for > one > > that does sell. Archival mat board is a little over $10 for a 32" x 40" > > sheet. The only real expense is the glass. > > > > Doug Herr > > Birdman of Sacramento > > http://www.wildlightphoto.com > > http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com > > > > *mostly > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > >> Sent: Dec 30, 2014 4:07 PM > >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Any recommendations prints on gatorboard? > >> > >> Excellent idea. If you think your work is so good that they will sell at > >> $100,000 after you are long dead at Sotheby's, then by all mean only > print > >> on most archival materials or silver gelatin or albumen... > >> > >> Otherwise, people now look at photographs as decorations, even if it is > >> fine arts. You don't have to play in the market,but if you do, anything > >> that makes a good presentation without paying a framer $300 is a good > idea. > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: > >> > >>> I think this might have possibilities. More: > >>> > >>> http://www.jaywatson.com/blog/2010/04/16/float-mounting-photos/ > >>> > >>> > >>> On 12/29/2014 11:27 PM, Bob Adler wrote: > >>> > >>>> Well I'm going to start getting back into printing and mounting in > >>>> January. I think I'm going to expand on an idea of Paul Roark's and > just > >>>> mount on archival matte or gator board with, perhaps a protective > spray. > >>>> Stick that on a wall. > >>>> > >>>> I like to photograph and print. I don't like to frame with > >>>> plexiglass/glass fronts and make frames. Diy framing is a PITA. PAYING > >>>> someone to do large prints is outrageously expensive. > >>>> > >>>> I just don't really care what the "art world" calls standard. The > framers > >>>> get the money if it sells or not, and I get a few hundred bucks if one > >>>> sells and am stuck with the costs of the other frames. If a viewer > doesn't > >>>> like the freaking frame the print won't sell. I know this from > experience. > >>>> > >>>> So there it will be; a bare assed print. Sells or not but only the > cost > >>>> of the print and board. Plus you really see the print. It's as > intimate as > >>>> it gets. Books are tempting too but you can't go wall sized. > >>>> > >>>> And more time for capturing light. Conventional standards don't > benefit > >>>> the photographer or enhance the interaction of the viewer one bit: > only > >>>> benefits the framers and gallery owners who couldn't care a less > about the > >>>> image: only if it sells. > >>>> > >>>> Fighting a cold so please forgive any grouchiness. I may not sell > >>>> anything but I won't go broke in the process. And if presentation is > the > >>>> primary factor for a print selling, well that certainly ain't very > >>>> satisfying! > >>>> G'nite all. :-) > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > >> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > >> // https://www.facebook.com/Transformations.CosplayPortraits > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto // https://www.facebook.com/Transformations.CosplayPortraits