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Subject: [Leica] OT: Recent debate on crop v FF - john
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (Philippe)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 01:06:42 +0100
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Le 17 janv. 2015 ? 20:44, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> a ?crit :

> Thank you Philippe, quite interesting and also shows what I felt with my 
> X-T1.
> 
> 1st Pair: - mostly the expected DoF difference
> 
> 2nd Pair: - Fuji unsharp, EXIF says Nikon was at f4?

yes, my mistake while shooting and haste to share :-(

> 
> 3rd Pair: - More noise on the Fuji (look at lower right)
> 
> This is at 1:1 viewing so what difference (other the DoF)  will you see 
> online or most prints?
> 

I haven't drawn any conclusion john. I still need to "play" with the files 
and then we had guests at home tonight :-)

Amities
Philippe



> john
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> During the course of one of our famous-the-world-over LUG-debates on APS-C 
> and FF ;-) I had promised to post comparison shots of fuji and nikon files 
> using the same settings.
> 
> I found time to rekindle my D700 today (16 months on the shelf, so says 
> LR) and shot 3 pairs of snaps at high ISO (1600 for I wanted RAW, and it 
> is the ISO limit of both bodies in RAW I think) and equivalent focal 
> length and aperture, respectively 35 & 50mm, both open at 1.4.
> 
> These are indoors snaps, without any other purpose than comparison - rain 
> prevented me from taking the cameras for a stroll.
> The fuji being small and resting on a table for two of the shots, the 
> angles may be slightly different. 
> 
> The light didn't change outside 95% grey, nor inside.
> 
> The links below will lead the curious of either list to dng files, 
> conversion is the only alteration I have made to them.
> 
> You should be asked a "mot de passe" aka password, type: charlie (the 
> first file might have a capital C) 
> 
> 1st Pair
> https://filex.univ-lorraine.fr/get?k=qMDBdgufq6BRdADa6p7
> 
> https://filex.univ-lorraine.fr/get?k=bEkQMoqnd4f5rRIcBZP
> 
> 2nd
> https://filex.univ-lorraine.fr/get?k=yWV2vbE714whrsQdTcN
> 
> https://filex.univ-lorraine.fr/get?k=p8qodHHwn1xAbA4FJ2B
> 
> 
> 3rd
> https://filex.univ-lorraine.fr/get?k=39AKF0uEw4123N0D50h
> 
> https://filex.univ-lorraine.fr/get?k=7gtbAMRKBQNxwEhU4I5
> 
> The files will remain available for download for 10 days.
> 
> 
> Hope this helps all parties give enlightened opinions based on facts ;-).
> 
> Amities
> Philippe
> 
> 
> 
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In reply to: Message from philippe.amard at sfr.fr (Philippe) ([Leica] OT: Recent debate on crop v FF - files I had promised to Mark and john)
Message from john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster) ([Leica] OT: Recent debate on crop v FF - files I had promised to Mark and john)