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Subject: [Leica] Prints are way too dark. Driven to distraction
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 21:02:43 -0800
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I'll take luck any day!

Bob Adler
Robert Adler Photography
www.robertadlerphotography.com

> On Mar 1, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> As I read this, it begins to sound like the adults in the peanuts 
> cartoons, WA, WA, WA.... I just profile my LaCie monitor and a;; looks 
> good on both my 3880 and R2000. it may be just dumb luck, but that's ok 
> with me.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Leo Wesson
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:10 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Prints are way too dark. Driven to distraction
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> I'm no expert and there are a million ways to screw this up...and I'm not a
> user of Eizo equipment (yet) and I haven't used an I1 in awhile but....
> You have to have a good monitor to begin with.
> You have to make sure that the monitor is set to the default profile before
> you callibrate.  Choose the native white point for your monitor.
> You have to make sure that your imaging software/hardware supports the
> version of profile that your profiler creates.  This one tripped me up a
> lot in the past...Version 4 or Version 2
> Make sure that your photo software is set to use your monitor profile.
> Soft proof with your paper profile for your printer that came from the
> paper manufacturer. Or use the profile that your make of  your paper to
> match your monitor.
> When you print you have to make sure that you aren't double profiling in
> your photo software and your print driver. It  is easy to screw up here.
> Make sure that you use your paper settings correctly.
> Your prints ought to be close.
> 
> Your monitor profile lets your know what your images should look like.
> Your printer/paper profile tells the printer how to get there.
> 
> If you do all this, you should be close.  If it didn't work, there is
> something wrong with either the way you did it or something wrong with your
> equipment.
> 
> Changing your monitor to match the print output is not the way to go.  It
> screws up your baseline.
> That said, if it works for you, good.  But it doesn't work for me.
> 
> Leo Wesson
> Photographer/Videographer
> 817.733.9157
> www.leowesson.com
> 
> 
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