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Subject: [Leica] Was: Screw the Nocti, Now: 28mm And BeThere
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 12:00:59 -0700
References: <D1484E88.36F2C%mark@rabinergroup.com> <FC8B4E2E-67CC-478D-A1FC-DBBAD9C0ED75@frozenlight.eu>

It really depends on how wide do you want your shots. For most uses, I like
the 35mm more, but that is me. For you it might be something else.

If you are doing a lot of indoor shots or if you doing a lot wide or close
up scene on the street, then I will get the 28mm.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
wrote:

> Or the Voigtlander 28mm. I am quite happy with it on my M8.
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> > On 06 Apr 2015, at 20:54, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> >
> > The option is the 28mm f/2.8 ASPH ELMARIT-M which is a more compact and
> > inexpensive lens which came out in 2006 where the Summicron ASPH came
> out in
> > 2000. And the Summicron may block the viewfinder. The Elmarit is old
> > fashioned Leica compact wide angle size. The Summicron is new Leica
> inflated
> > with bicycle pump size.
> > I might go with compact Elmarit. Both my other Leica wides the 21 and 24
> are
> > Elmarit ASPH's. Though neither are compact.
> > Its just that as Leica "brands" go "Summicron" is the main one as I've
> > always seen it.
> >
> >
> > On 4/6/15 12:53 PM, "Gene duprey" <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >> I have the 28 Elmarit Asph. and have loved its performance.  It is the
> lens on
> >> my M8 most of the time.  It is small and performs very well in my
> opinion.
> >> There are others who think it is very contrasty, but I have found this
> to be
> >> not true.  I think Lluis also has and uses this lens.
> >>
> >> Gene
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Robert Baron" <robertbaron1 at gmail.com>
> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 9:13:20 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Was: Screw the Nocti, Now: 28mm And BeThere
> >>
> >> I bought the 28mm Summicron-M ASPH I think at about the time it was
> >> released, IIRC at the Leica Seminar on Cape Cod in 2001.  I never got
> >> comfortable with the focal length and sold it some years later.
> >>
> >> Now I'm thinking about buying a 28mm Elmarit-M 2.8 to use on my M240,
> >> mainly when I'm traveling and don't want to carry my current 35mm
> Summilux.
> >>
> >> Is this good thinking?
> >>
> >> --Bob
> >>
> >>
> >> ===On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Jay Burleson <leica at 
> >> jayburleson.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Erwin Puts:
> >>> "The Summicron-M 2/28 mm ASPH. is one of the crown jewels in the Leica
> >>> scuderia of lenses. It is a superb lens and after twelve years in
> >>> production still not surpassed."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 4/5/2015 9:39 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Maybe  on this thing we should find the specs. The MTF graphs. And or
> some
> >>>> reviews by people who sound like they may know what  they're talking
> >>>> about.
> >>>> Instead of relying on capricious or even malicious chat group gossip.
> >>>> I can speak for the finish of the lens a chrome version which looked
> top
> >>>> Leica quality to me. If that accounts for much.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 4/6/15 12:24 AM, "Gene duprey" <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Interesting.  i remember several years ago everyone was praising the
> 28
> >>>>> Chron.
> >>>>> I wonder what has changed?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gene
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2015 3:06:51 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Screw the Nocti...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I do street documentary, I would get a 28mm (again) for sure. I
> did
> >>>>> most
> >>>>> of my "Occupy" series with the 35 or 50mm, and I definitely would
> have
> >>>>> loved a 28mm.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fortunately, the 28mm Cron is the unloved Leica-child, so one can
> get it
> >>>>> for around $2500 now. A bargain compares to the Nocti :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:28 PM, John McMaster <john at 
> >>>>> mcmaster.co.nz>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Mark, I think you should go back a reread your books ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> john
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Mark Rabiner
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, 6 April 2015 6:08 a.m.
> >>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Screw the Nocti...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Most of us and most photographers I've ever met unless they were
> just
> >>>>>> starting out had both a 28 and a 24. Nobody ever didn't have either.
> >>>>>> That
> >>>>>> would be crazy. Its always been a basic focal length. Its one of the
> >>>>>> frame
> >>>>>> lines in M's since the M2 in 1957.
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Mark William Rabiner
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In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Was: Screw the Nocti, Now: 28mm And BeThere)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Was: Screw the Nocti, Now: 28mm And BeThere)