[Leica] eBay scam?

[steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)]

> On Jun 4, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Howard Ritter <hlritter at bex.net> wrote:
> 
> It sounds like what must have happened to your relative is that the thief, 
> after winning the auction, generated a spoofing email that appeared to 
> come from PayPal notifying him of receipt of payment.
> 
> I don?t think this can happen if the transaction takes place entirely 
> through eBay, that is, if notification of payment is confirmed to be 
> genuine by directly logging onto one?s eBay account and not by what 
> appears to be an email directly from eBay or PayPal.
> 
> After all the advice I?ve gotten from several forums, I?ve become pretty 
> disenchanted with the idea of selling a high-value item to Moscow.


consider tell the buyer you wish to have the payment in your hand and then 
you will send the item, you will find out pretty fast.


steve
> 
> ?howard
> 
> 
>> On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> All I can say is a relative trusted somebody who bought a camera off him 
>> via eBay and paid by what appeared to be PayPal. He then posted the 
>> camera and notified the buyer but then the scam PayPal link disappeared 
>> and he lost his camera and money.
>> 
>> Be very careful!
>> 
>> Gerry
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 4 Jun 2015, at 14:25, Howard Ritter <hlritter at bex.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all?
>>> 
>>> Sorry for being a bit OT, but I'm hoping to make use of the group?s 
>>> experiences.
>>> 
>>> I have an item (not photographic) listed on eBay. I just received an 
>>> inquiry from a person in Moscow claiming that he wants to buy the item 
>>> at the Buy It Now price, which I would be very happy to get, and wants 
>>> to know how much it would cost to ship it to Moscow. And no, he did not 
>>> offer to go outside of eBay and send me a bank check for more than the 
>>> purchase price and ask for the remainder in cash! There was no mention 
>>> of anything irregular, just the inquiry about shipping costs.
>>> 
>>> I have no prior experience with selling on eBay. I do realize there are 
>>> all sorts of scams run through the site, but I believe the situation has 
>>> improved since they began requiring all payments to be made thru PayPal. 
>>> My question is: It seems to me that if a seller ships only after 
>>> receiving payment thru PayPal, he is insulated from being defrauded?but 
>>> can PayPal claw back a payment to an eBay seller if the buyer?s payment 
>>> turns out to be fraudulent? Does PayPal, which presumably vets the 
>>> buyer?s form of payment and has his money securely in hand before paying 
>>> the seller, assume the loss if later turns out that the buyer somehow 
>>> defaulted or scammed PayPal? PayPay presumably is pretty sophisticated 
>>> and exercises due diligence?is it even possible to scam them?
>>> 
>>> Are there any other dangers involved in this type of transaction? For 
>>> example, what would happen if Russian Customs refuses to allow entry of 
>>> an item, or the buyer backs out when he finds the import duty excessive?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your advice,
>>> 
>>> ?howard
>>> 
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