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Subject: [Leica] Can anyone share hard water, high mineral content darkroom experience?
From: lew1716 at gmail.com (Lew Schwartz)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:48:23 -0400
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I understand,Bill, but my situation is different. We draw our own water and
have to be careful not to overdo it, plus we also run the waste into the
ground behind the house.


-Lew Schwartz

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:

> Mine didn't make a dent in my water bill, but that's my ex-wife's problem
> now. I don't know how toxic what comes out is, I was treating water from a
> municipal supply, and our nation has become one of idiots, the only people
> who believe municipal water supplies are unhealthy are people trying to
> sell you something. I washed in tap water, and mixed photo flo with RO
> water. Well water, of course is another thing. I do know the RO machine did
> occasionally make a dribbling noise as it discharged into the drain, but
> that was infrequent. Can't possibly imagine the five for one business is
> even close to correct.
> -----Original Message----- From: Lew Schwartz
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:17 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Can anyone share hard water, high mineral content
> darkroom experience?
>
> We supply our own water from our own well. These ro units seem fairly
> inefficient + problem getting rid of waste with concentrated toxic stuff
> might hurt our septic system.
>
>
> -Lew Schwartz
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> 
> wrote:
>
>  most home centers sell home RO machines, and they are fairly inexpensive,
>> shouldn't be nearly expensive as most of your other stuff, around here
>> about $300. They produce well filtered water with lots of bad stuff taken
>> out, and as a bonus, you can use them to feed an icemaker in your
>> refrigerator. Can't make enough for flowing water in a washer, but if you
>> use water baths, it should be good. Great for chemical mixing. I always
>> filled some old milk jugs at off times to keep plenty on hand.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: George Lottermoser
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 2:02 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Can anyone share hard water, high mineral content
>> darkroom experience?
>>
>>
>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>  I've never worked in these conditions. We're drawing from our own well,
>>
>>> probably high calcium & iron in water. I mix my own developers, but have
>>> a
>>> great source of distilled H20. (Run off from the dehumidifier.) My main
>>> concern is with washing & the fixer. I got hold of some old style calgon.
>>> How much would I mix in? I plan to wash negs in the ion filtered well
>>> water
>>> with a final soak in the pure H2O plus wetting agent.
>>>
>>> I haven't tried any of this yet, but soon ....
>>>
>>> Comments? Ideas?
>>>
>>>
>> I worked for 25 years with very hard, untreated water, high in minerals,
>> calcium and iron, in my darkroom.
>>
>> I used commercially distilled water to mix all chemistry.
>> I used double filtration for wash water;
>> though always did a final distilled water soak, rinse, soak, rinse, drop
>> of photoflo in final rinse.
>>
>> Never let the negatives or prints dry with even filtered hard water on
>> them.
>>
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>>
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>
>>
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