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Subject: [Leica] Steve's Zeiss 135/4
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 04:58:40 +0200
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Hi Steve,

It's the smallest of the 135 mm lenses I have. It looks 
positively tiny on the front of my Rollei 3003 EdL and 
even more so with an adapter on my Canon 20D.

Very compact dimensions, very solidly built, and quite 
heavy for its size. Has a reassuring feel of quality to it

BTW: mine has a tendency to rattle after being used a lot.

If yours does, it's very probably the front element. 
Just unscrew the front - extending bit - of the lens 
barrel, then tighten up the front element and screw the 
barrel back on.

Cheers
Douglas

On 01.09.2015 22:34, Steve Barbour wrote:
> thanks Douglas, this is much appreciated.   This answered my questions, 
> and is what I had hoped for.  The lens is on its way, but I havn?t ever 
> used it, or even seen it.
>
> I assume it is very small and handy, like the others.
>
>
>
> many thanks,
>
> steve
>
>
>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp at gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> http://forum.mflenses.com/carl-zeiss-tele-tessar-135mm-f-4-t61774.html
>>
>> Here are some typical results from the lens you mentioned.
>>
>> The Voigtl?nder Color-Dynarex, Zeiss Tele-Tessar for Icarex in M42 (TM) 
>> and Icarex bayonet mount (BM) and the Rollei Tele-Tessar in M42 and QBM 
>> are all identical lenses.
>>
>> Some of the Rollei and Voigtl?nder versions were made (assembled!) by 
>> Rollei in Singapore.
>>
>> The M42 versions let you lock the aperture pin.
>>
>> Praktina (CZ-Jena) made lenses in East Germany. This lens is made by 
>> CZ-Oberkochen in West Germany.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Douglas
>>
>> On 01.09.2015 20:45, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure I understand the reference to a Zeiss or Rollei..... 
>>>> Zeiss made the original Praktina mount ( M42), I have no idea about 
>>>> Rollei?..
>>>> There were several 135mm lenses made under the Takumar brand.... Which 
>>>> one you got?
>>> Frank got this, talked with KEH, they said it was screw mount M42
>>>
>>>
>>> ZEISS 135MM F/4 TELE-TESSAR HFT 2 PIN LENS
>>>
>>>
>>> was gibst?
>>>
>>>
>>> did I do wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The only 135mm F4 lens I found a reference for is for a Pentax  6x7 
>>>> camera.  It has a Big Mama bayonet mount.
>>>> There was a 135 F3.5 lens in M42.. front filter ring is 49mm
>>>> There was a 135 F2.5 lens in K mount.... again, a reasonably sized (as 
>>>> opposed to Big Mama) bayonet mount.
>>>>
>>>> There was a 50mm F4 macro lens in M42 mount....
>>>> There was a 100mm F4 macro lens in M42 mount
>>>>
>>>> ALL M42 mounts will work with these adapters.  Makes no difference 
>>>> which one you have.... They will NOT work with the bayonet lenses, a 
>>>> different adapter is required.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> That is all I found in the 30 minutes I found looking for you?..
>>>
>>> I have been looking too,  see above, lens is on its way. Is this the 
>>> same lens, correct or no?
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Look at the back of the lens.... screw mount?  Measure across the 
>>>> threads.. 42mm or thereabouts?  The you are in business.
>>>>
>>>> Yup.  Easy as $13 for BOTH.  Splurge.
>>>>
>>>> Focus will be the same as a Pentax body.... distance from subject to 
>>>> film plane....  which, with bellows, will still be a macro only lens.  
>>>> No infinity.
>>>> Now, if you take the bellows off, and bolt the lens to the adapter, and 
>>>> IF the lens is not a short mount, it should focus to infinity.
>>>>
>>>> You realize, no AF, no data from lens to body, no automatic aperture 
>>>> opening for focusing then shut down to working aperture for exposure ( 
>>>> always at taking aperture)....
>>>>
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] 
>>>> On Behalf Of Steve Barbour
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:09 AM
>>>> To: LUG
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Flutterbys Using the Takumar 135
>>>>
>>>> so Frank,  I want to be sure I ve got it, this lens, a 135/4 takumar/ 
>>>> rollei /zeiss unit is basically an M 42 pentax screw mount lens ?
>>>>
>>>> These adapters are available for both Fuji X and Sony A7.
>>>>
>>>> Et voila that s it?
>>>>
>>>> thank you
>>>>
>>>> steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Takumar is probably an M42 screw mount lens.  Many times referred
>>>>> to as Pentax Screw Mount.  Or Universal screw mount.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should cost you about $10 on FleaBay.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, $5 (Sony).   I looked it up.
>>>>> Fuji is $8
>>>>>
>>>>> About the same as 1% of the TAX on a Leica body.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] 
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Barbour
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:47 AM
>>>>> To: LUG
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Flutterbys Using the Takumar 135
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Aram.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the kind words.  I have an M42 bellows, and also a set of
>>>>> extension tubes, but I don't recall trying the 135 on there.  That's
>>>>> something else to but on the bucket list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> is there an adapter so this lens can be used on a Fuji X or Sony A7 ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/1/2015 10:46 AM, Aram Langhans wrote:
>>>>>>> Douglas. When I was shooting Rollei's I had that 135/4 Tessar.  It
>>>>>>> indeed
>>>>> was a great lens.  I would put it on bellows and that was my go-to
>>>>> Macro setup.
>>>>>>> Jim.  The butterfly photos are amazing.  That Takumar seems to be a
>>>>>>> very
>>>>> nice lens.  Have you tried it on a bellows?
>>>>>>> Aram
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Sharp
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:06 PM
>>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Flutterbys Using the Takumar 135
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bl ody good lens. bloody good photos!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like the colour rendition of Takumars - not as clinical as Leica
>>>>>>> and not as cool and calculating as Zeiss.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of my favourite 135s is the Takumar 135/2.5 in M42 mount - comes
>>>>>>> close behind a Yashica 135/2.8 with CY-mount and a miniscule 135/4
>>>>>>> from Voigtl nder/Rollei which really sparkles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 31.08.2015 20:55, Jim Hemenway wrote:
>>>>>>>> The second one Jim, it's somewhat magical.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/31/15 2:03 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I captured images of two more passing butterflies using a
>>>>>>>>> combination
>>>>> with which I am beginning to feel more comfortable, the Oly E1 and the
>>>>> Pentax 135/3.5, shot wide open.  Both were shot at very close to the
>>>>> near focus limit.  Colors are just as they came from the ORF file.
>>>>>>>>> A Black Swallowtail on the Buddleia Bush
>>>>>>>>> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Black+Swallowtail+E1T
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> k.TIFF.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And a Gulf Fritillary, same bush
>>>>>>>>> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Gulf+Fritillary+E1+Ta
>>>>>>>>> k
>>>>>>>>> .TIFF.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please view the last one Large.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Comments and critiques welcomed.
>>>>>>>>>
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