Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/11/15

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Subject: [Leica] IR photography with M8 and Elamarit-M 24/2.8
From: hjwulff at gmail.com (Henning Wulff)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 15:15:03 -0800
References: <147AB253-B595-41AD-A38A-EC1BD9767A5C@bex.net> <D20E5017-A1A9-47DF-A5CB-D4DECB73E9E9@frozenlight.eu> <4613ED56-CB61-41D8-88AA-555FAB5D50F4@bex.net> <52E81003-D27A-4103-873D-DF1B577E31AD@icloud.com> <EC90DAFC-4E00-4F1D-8500-84793BF6705C@bex.net> <58C36A04-ACE0-4464-99CA-518E8142851C@icloud.com> <DF9879EF-7EA2-4A7E-8AF8-0CF2655C3C58@bex.net>

The B+W 093's work just fine, but the exposure is a couple of stops 
(depending on subject) longer than with the 092 or Leica's IR. Personally, 
the filters I prefer for IR on the M8 are the 715's or 720's. My most used 
are Helipan 715's. If you buy cheaper ones, the cutoff indicated often bears 
only a passing resemblance to what B+W or Heliopan would label them, and 
they vary a lot.

Henning Wulff
hjwulff at gmail.com




On 2015-11-14, at 8:21 PM, Howard Ritter <hlritter at bex.net> wrote:

> Right, and I did get the IR cut filters from Leica. But there is a native 
> IR filter over the M8?s sensor, even if an inadequate one, and my reading 
> indicates that as the wavelength increases, its effectiveness improves so 
> that it?s reasonably effective for the deeper IR. In fact, one source 
> indicated that there?s so little overlap between the low-end tail of the 
> B+W 093?s passband and the high-end tail of the M8?s that it?s 
> questionable whether the 093 would even be useable. But the same article 
> included an attractive hand-held M8 image done with the 093, so 
> apparently, at least in some situations, there?s enough.
> 
> ?howard
> 
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2015, at 9:15 PM, George Lottermoser <george.imagist at 
>> icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I believe the M8 IR filtration qualifies as minimal (to virtually non 
>> existent);
>> which is why the M8 requires IR/UV cut filters "in front" of our lenses 
>> to achieve accurate color.
>> 
>> So. The M8 already qualifies as extremely IR sensitive;
>> as I understand it.
>> 
>> a note off the iPad, George
>> 
>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Howard Ritter <hlritter at bex.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I thought I had recalled that filter nomenclature from your last post, 
>>> George. If one wants to use the M8 as a dedicated IR camera, is it 
>>> possible/worthwhile to have the sensor IR filter removed?
>> 
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