Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/11/18

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Subject: [Leica] SL Review
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 18:03:14 -0800
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Agree. And I'm hoping they will come out with a new M that will meet some
needs of mine currently not met...

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> 
wrote:

> Leica does not claim the SL as the M solution. Only that it can take M
> lens. For product sales, it makes a lot of sense to keep the lines separate
>
> On Wednesday, November 18, 2015, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I decided to plop down the ~$35 for the Reid Reviews. I wanted to know
> how
> > my 35/2 performed on the SL. He tests that lens specifically as well as a
> > few other wides.
> > As he asks not to "distribute that information", I can only say that, as
> a
> > landscape photographer and one who also shoots below f/5.6 in other
> > situations, I am not the least bit interested in the SL anymore...
> > Best,
> > Bob
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm curious how the wides will perform relative to the M240.  If there
> > is a
> > > difference, I suspect it might be due to Leica using a different filter
> > > over the sensor.  I would not be surprised of the M9 glass issue was
> > > related to it being thinner than all the others use.  There now seems
> to
> > be
> > > a replacement glass that is more durable.  I would like to see a
> > comparison
> > > test of an M9 before and after the glass change.  When I get my M9 back
> > > from Leica I'll see if I can do that.
> > >
> > > I think the filter over the sensor/obtuse light angle problem has not
> yet
> > > been totally solved.  Combine the possibility of changes on this front
> > with
> > > the apparent practice of some lens makers to design the lens to offset
> > the
> > > sensor cover stack effects, and it just might put a variable into the
> > > formula that makes investment in an expensive lens set less attractive.
> > >
> > > Getting rid of that filter has now replaced my previous desire to get
> rid
> > > of the mirror in SLRs.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Steve Barbour <
> steve.barbour at gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bravo, enjoy it Tina,  tell us, I know you will !
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Nov 18, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net
> > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mine is being shipped to the dealer today and should be here this
> > week
> > > or
> > > > > early next week.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tina
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Nathan Wajsman <
> > photo at frozenlight.eu <javascript:;>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> But equally important is to weed out the corporate shills. Anybody
> > who
> > > > has
> > > > >> a prototype from Leica is an insider in my view, and I certainly
> > take
> > > > such
> > > > >> a person?s reviews with a big grain of salt. The most trustworthy
> > > > reviews
> > > > >> are by people who buy the equipment like you and I would have to
> do
> > > and
> > > > >> have no connection with or privileged access to the manufacturer,
> > e.g.
> > > > >> Consumer Reports.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Cheers,
> > > > >> Nathan
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Nathan Wajsman
> > > > >> Alicante, Spain
> > > > >> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> > > > >> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> > > > >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> > > > >> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog:
> > > http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> > > > <
> > > > >> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> > > > >> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> > > > >> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> > > > >> YNWA
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On 18 Nov 2015, at 17:16, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> There are lots of reviews if you just Google Leica SL reviews,
> but
> > > you
> > > > do
> > > > >>> have to ignore the Leica-haters and there are a lot of them out
> > > there!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Tina
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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> > > > > --
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> > > > > http://
> > > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > > >
> > > > > www.tinamanley.com
> > > > > http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/
> > > > >
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> > --
> > Bob Adler
> > www.robertadlerphotography.com
> >
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