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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:40:58 -0800
References: <CA+yJO1D=cphW6jKE02H0j-oyU7gYq_kkXUH6JHij+rV+puQ-TA@mail.gmail.com> <565CB7D3.3090200@lighttube.net> <000f01d12bba$ee36b850$caa428f0$@ca> <CA+yJO1BvYxPZpCf8FuxsVmP6FDV5R25TycmqgpBNDpdFxy-K+A@mail.gmail.com>

 Fair enough dear Lady! Jeeeeesh! I can't find anyone that'll even pay that
amount! :-)

>From a testing point of gear my whole life I think I only had a look at two
things?
What does an image look like wide open and stopped down at 22? All the rest
was what does the content really look like on the very next assignment?
That's a client paying shoot!
I kind of always had great trust that I was using "LEICA STUFF=== THE BEST
IN THE WORLD???" It'll work beautifully! And that pretty well was and has
been the case. Other than an R4? Naw I won't tell that story again. :-)
cheers,
ted

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of
Tina Manley
Sent: November-30-15 2:07 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux

I would love to, Ted, if I could just find one of those "well paying
clients"!!  There don't seem to be any around anymore.  I am going to quit
testing, though, and go out and take photos of my chickens and geese and
guineas and ducks and cats and dog.  We do have a shortage of people around
the farm but Tom is painting the front bedroom.  Maybe somebody will pay me
another $1.74 for 5 years use of a photo of Tom painting!

Hope you are well!

Tina

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Crew, :-)
> I've got an even better idea???????? :-)
> Just go out and take nice content winning photographs the content blows
> people away! And save a lot of wasted time fiddling!
>
> Yeah yeah OK I'll go away as I don't read! I just take photos and have
> fun... KISS! Folks as that beats the heck out of all this testing you'll
> probably forget in the "HEAT OF AN ASSGNMENT" for a well paying client!
> :-)
> :-) Aw, that feels better!:-)Have a nice day!
> cheers,
> Dr. ted :-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of
> Jim Nichols
> Sent: November-30-15 12:56 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux
>
> Tina,
>
> It is difficult for me to make comparisons of images from two cameras
> when one is shot at f/6.8 and the other at f/2.  I think you need to
> select common settings for such comparisons to have any real meaning.
> DoF  makes a big difference.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
>
> On 11/30/2015 2:34 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> > PESO:
> >
> > I took some photos in the rain to compare the SL with the R19/2.8, the
SL
> > with the 35/2.0 Summicron and the M240 with the Summicron.  As I was
> > carrying the cameras out to the deck, I passed the kitchen scale so I
> > weighed them.  The SL with no lens weighed 966 grams.  The M240 with the
> > 35/2.0 attached weighed 961 grams, so not a huge difference.
> >
> > When I attach the M lenses, the SL automatically recognized the coded
> > lenses with no further attention from me.  When I attach the R lenses, I
> go
> > to the menu and tell it which R lens is attached.  It recognizes the
lens
> > but does not record the correct aperture.  I know I took several at F/8
> and
> > used hyperfocal focusing, but none of them came up as having f/8 for the
> > aperture.
> >
> > The SL is much easier to focus.  I tried out both the magnifying in the
> EVF
> > and the focus peaking.  Both work fine but the magnified EVF is much
> easier
> > to see.  You press the bottom right button once and it zooms to 100% in
> the
> > EVF, press it twice and it zooms to 200%.  Focus and touch the shutter
> > button and it zooms back out and takes the photo.
> >
> > With the auto-focus SL lens, there are several focusing formats to
choose
> > from in the SL and  you can also touch the screen and have it focus
there
> > or move the toggle switch (they call it the joystick) next to the EFG to
> > choose a focus spot.  I find the screen and the toggle switch to be
> easiest
> > and fastest.  But these are all manually focused with M and R lenses.
> >
> > The first one is an experiment with the Noctilux last night using the
> > magnified EVF to focus on Tom's eyelashes instead of the glasses frame.
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/image/161961923
> >
> > The next three are straight from the camera as DNGs, converted to jpegs
> as
> > they are exported with no other adjustments.
> >
> > Leica SL with 19/2.8 Elmarit R:
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/161961755
> >
> > Leica SL with 35/2.0 Summicron M:
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/161961757
> >
> > Leica M240 with 35/2.0 Summicron M:
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/161961758
> >
> > I did some bracketed exposures and merged the photos for HDR with each
> > camera and each lens.  These are adjusted for color and exposure:
> >
> > *http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/leica_sl&page=7
> > <http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/leica_sl&page=7>*
> >
> > The SL will also bracket the 3 exposures as DNGs and make a merged jpeg
> > from them automatically.  I found those needed more adjusting than
making
> > them myself.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Tina
> >
> >
>
>
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In reply to: Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux)
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Message from tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant) ([Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux)
Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux)