Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/12/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Sigma make lenses nowadays, the "Art" line, which are as good or better than the Zeiss "Otus" line for Nikon DSLRs, and with autofocus to boot. Both Sigma and Tamron make premium lenses nowadays that match or better the equivalent Nikon offerings at a very competitive price. If you are a Nikon DSLR user, it is hard to ignore these lenses nowadays. I presume the logic holds for Canon as well, but as I have not used that combo, I am not sure. Cheers Jayanand On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 3:37 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote: > Which has more Resolution: Sony 28-70 or Leica 28-70? The question had > bothered me ever since I got the A7, when either lens would fit on the same > body... > > There are really good reasons to not care, including AF and Auto Diaphragm > operation of the Sony. But which would have would have better glass? > > > > My application is mostly travel photography. in which case things like > distortion issues, vignetting, color cast,, etc have a lesser value to me > than brute force net resolution. > > > > With a couple of 28-70 in hand I went a'testin. > > > > The Sony 28-70 F3.5-5.6 is the "kit" lens usually associated with the A7 > bodies. It is not expensive to buy on its own, and as part of the Kit, is > hard to turn away. > > The Leica 28-70 F3.5-4.5 Rom lens is the third model ( first was designed > and made by Sigma, and not considered a superb lens optically or > mechanically, second is the Sigma designed, Kyocera made lens, and the > third > is apparently a slightly modified Sigma design, modified by Leica, and > built > by Kyocera. Depending on what you read, the second and third or third only > have a different barrel. Again, depending, the third is a Leica designed > barrel and has modified optics. FYI, Kyocera is/was the company that > brought > back the Contax name.. The third version is the only one with factory ROM. > > > > Some will ask, well why not test the Leica 28-90 lens, the one with a > splendid reputation? Because I do not have access to one, and the price > point is too high for my interest! 35-70? Different range meaning that a > direct comparison is difficult, not available to me, but I am working on > accessibility... > > > > How did I test? > > A7 camera, 24MP, no IS. ( no, I do not own a 36MP camera so the test was > done with existing equipment) > > Tripod > > Delayed shutter release. no movement introduced errors > > Electronic first shutter.. no shutter slap > > RAW Files > > Manual focusing at 11.3x ( or whatever) magnification. LCD or eye level? > I > used the eye level. GG type focusing. No assist. > > Cheap Chinese adapter from R to NEX. cost me $12. Any questions or dissing > of this cheap adapter, go back to the price point. It is worth $12 to do a > test, Not $200 or more. > > Only the central area of each lens was tested in depth, spot check > examination of the corners had the same results. > > > > What was the control lens? > > 50 Summilux ASPH, probably the best lens in Leica's M portfolio, with the > possible exception of the 50 APO ASPH Cron ( which I have no access to). > > It was mounted using a Novoflex adapter. > > > > What Focal lengths were tested? 28, 50 and 70 mm > > What F stops? F4 and F8 > > > > How did I compare images? Raw files in LRcc, latest version, updated 24 > hours before. 1:1 > > > > What LR settings were used? None,. All set to basically un-touched, > neutral > > > > What was used as a test image? A section of the outdoor fence at my house. > > > It was made from cedar, is 44 years old, and has enough character to allow > minute comparisons of image quality. Bug holes, wood texture and all. > > Distance was about 15 feet. > > > > What ISO? ISO320 for all. > > > > Now that you have read all the caveats.. The results... > > > > The 50 ASPH Summilux is the best by a fraction. > > The Leica Zoom lens held its own, and was a CLOSE second. ( Surprise! The > Zoom was surprisingly good, especially when the design was done in the late > 90's by a company that was supposed to be second rate : Sigma. Proves you > should never believe everything you read, even if it is on the Internet!) > > The Sony lens was not bad, but not as good as the Leica lens. > > > > The differences were in the fine details, where Leica really did a better > job than the Sony. This was at all Focal lengths, all apertures. Center > and corners too. > > > > Define "better"? small details were obviously sharper and clearer in the > Leica at 1:1 in LR. Edges crisper.. Overall small detail contrast was > higher. > > Overall contrast and color were very close in all 3. > > > > Is it worth it to switch to the Leica if you have the Sony? YMMV. You > give > up AF, a big deal for many. You give up auto diaphragm, a big deal to me. > > The Leica lens is a bit longer, a bit more in diameter and a bit more > heavy. > > > The positive? You get better image quality... > > > > No, I did not test for CA, etc. This was an initial test to see if I > wanted > to go further... Which I will not. > > > > The difference in IQ was not enough to outweigh the negative user aspects > of > the Leica.. IMO. > > > > What might change my final decision? A sensor with more MP may NEED a > better lens. At 36MP? 43MP? 50MP? 64MP? > > I don't know, but there is a point where more resolution is needed than > the > Sony can deliver. > > > > But that is not in the budget for me for the foreseeable future... in which > case, I can worry about it then. > > > > Frank Filippone > > Red735i at verizon.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information