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Subject: [Leica] M 246 or M Monochrom
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 01:30:11 -0500

The idea of clear crisp simple single layer Bayerless black and white is
great but the idea of not just throwing away all that information at the get
go and being able to use it on the fly is always real tempting. I know just
how cool and valid that workflo that is because I do it all the time. I do
have filtering with glass over my lens fresh in my mind. It brings back
nostalgic memories all those filters I still have and what they did.

Carefully converting a color image file to a black and which one with the
use of all the color sliders can be a very creative and rewarding experience
and one which has no precedent in shooting film.
Its just an unprecedented amount of controll over and image to make all the
tones separate in just the way you figure out they should as you see them
change right in front of you.


On 1/17/16 6:45 PM, "Robert Meier" <robertmeier at usjet.net> wrote:

> Good point!


> On Jan 17, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Frank Filippone
> <red735i at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> if you get that M240, and use it for B+W,
> then color is freeeeeeeeeeeeee.  And who wouldn't want a freeeeeeeee Leica
> color camera?
> 
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
> 
> 
> Frank,
> 
>
> Thanks for those links.  The David Farkas article in particular compares 
> the
> 246 to the 240 converted to B&W.  He finds the 240 provides B&W results 
> that
> are close to the 246 at low ISO?s and only starts to fall behind the 246 at
> the highest ISO?s.  
> That is just what I was looking for, and it makes me
> think that I will get a 240.
> 
> Robert
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2016, at 11:22 AM,
> Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Amazing how many articles
> a Google search will find....
>> 
>> http://tinyurl.com/hn3kqo4  Bottom of the
> page lists several.....
>> 
>> 
>> From Erwin....., who has 3 different
> articles.....
>> 
>> http://www.imx.nl/photo/leica/camera/styled-11/
>> 
>> I
> think the issue is how much computer work do you LIKE to do?  Vs.  Your
> wallet.......
>> 
>> Ask someone that has both to send you the SAME photograph
> from each camera... One in color ( M240) and the other in B+W (M246) and 
> play
> with it yourself in LR,PS, or whatever you like to use.........
>> 
>> If you
> get 2 differing subject images, you have no way to see if your skills at 
> Post
> are up to the differences in the cameras' hardware.... 
>> 
>> 
>> Frank
> Filippone
>> Red735i at verizon.net
>> 
>>> 
>>> I wasn?t asking for comparisons
> of the two Monochroms, but a comparison of the current Monochrom with the 
> 246
> (which the Monochrom is based on) converted to B&W.
>>> 
>>> I?m wondering if
> I could get along with the 246 and converting to B&W when I want B&W, but 
> have
> color otherwise, and not lose quality in comparison with the Monochrom.
>>>
> 
>>> Robert
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Replies: Reply from john at mcmaster.fr (John McMaster) ([Leica] M 246 or M Monochrom)
In reply to: Message from robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier) ([Leica] M 246 or M Monochrom)