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Subject: [Leica] Touristy cameras
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 16:24:23 -0600
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I thought our President was a Muslim??

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Sonny Carter
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> On Feb 4, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> I do not think so. I think your politicians and press demonize Iran too
> much for short term political gain. I have a few friends who have been
> going in there regularly for the last 10 years, and what I say is based on
> their first hand experience. I reiterate that, IMHO, your rather random and
> brutal police is more to be feared than Iran's for a casual visitor,
> especially if the colour of your skin is not lily white. Their religious
> theology is not much different from strains of Christian theology prevalent
> in the southern states of USA either. It is a democratic country that holds
> regular elections as well. Before you come at me with the religious nature
> of the elections, can you imagine a Muslim as President of USA?
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From all that I have heard, Iran is probably safer than the USA for a
>>> visitor. Methinks a biased press brainwashes rather thoroughly! :-)
>> 
>> 
>> safer from the people is one thing, safer from the authorities another. It
>> may even be that they are reciprocally related.
>> 
>> steve
>> 
>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Use black tape.
>>>> 2. Have Tom carry 1 camera and you carry another. 2 Tourists
>>>> 3. Don't go off alone PLEASE! Stay on the well beaten tourist path with
>> a
>>>> guide if you can...
>>>> We love you!! Come back safely.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Tina,
>>>>> Sure looks like the CREW want to be sure you & Tom come home with all
>>>> your
>>>>> gear and images!
>>>>> We, most of us, know of your travel time abroad over the years and if
>>>>> anybody will be properly prepared it would be the two of you!
>>>>> My biggest concerns are not from the everyday folks, but from those
>>>>> controlling and running the country and their obvious relations to
>> other
>>>>> countries  and regimes ?  :-(
>>>>> I suppose in reality, I can only offer you & Tom my most best wishes
>> and
>>>>> safe return.
>>>>> Hopefully keeping life in the KISS mode everyday will? maybe? make life
>>>>> easier?
>>>>> cheers & safe travels. I'm already dying to hear how it all went!  :-)
>>>>> ted  :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Larry Zeitlin via LUG
>>>>> Sent: February-03-16 9:08 AM
>>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Touristy cameras
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ted and Nathan are right on. A friend of mine is head of security at a
>>>>> major NYC airport and tells me that new Leicas are rarely carried by
>>>>> tourists. Especially a couple of them. They will assume that you are
>>>> either
>>>>> a photojournalist or intend to sell the cameras on the black market. If
>>>> you
>>>>> must carry a Leica choose an old beat up one, especially with the
>>>> vulcanite
>>>>> flaking off. And leave those very expensive lenses at home. Airport
>>>>> security personnel are not stupid and know the value of Leica and Zeiss
>>>>> optics. If you must carry a precision camera, choose a Canon, Nikon or
>> an
>>>>> Olympus, preferably an older model. And whatever you do, don't carry
>>>>> anything which uploads a picture directly to wi-fi. Sorry, but that's
>> the
>>>>> way it is.
>>>>> Larry Z
>>>>> + + + +
>>>>> Hi Tina,
>>>>> Nathan hit this right on the mark!
>>>>> Do not "Assume absolutely one iota of anything."
>>>>> 
>>>>> One thing for sure, with a couple of cameras, certainly a couple not
>>>>> looking
>>>>> like tourist "selfie types you may get a little more attention than you
>>>>> expect?" Then again? NADA!
>>>>> Now remember my dear folks, we're not trying to spook you. Far from it,
>>>>> just
>>>>> hopefully assisting in a preparation thought process? Bottom line?
>>>>> We want you to come home and tell us all "IT WAS A PIECE OF CAKE!"
>> That's
>>>>> it
>>>>> perfectly.Have a good one!
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> ted
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>> Sent: February-02-16 2:03 PM
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica MM
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would not assume anything. Dictatorial regimes do not like
>>>>> photojournalists (or any kind of journalists), especially from abroad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Adler
>>>> www.robertadlerphotography.com
>>>> 
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