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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Tests with MM and M246
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 18:07:30 -0500
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Thanks, Sonny.  That's my kind of testing.

Tina

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:

> When I get a new (to me) piece of gear, I take it out and play with it
> until I'm satisfied I'm comfortable with it, and can shoot without having
> to think about it and fiddle with it.  I call that testing.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Sonny Carter
> http://www.SonC.com/look
>
>
> > On Feb 11, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, exactly.
> >
> > Thanks, Ken.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It all boils down to what you're testing for.
> >>
> >> If you are comparing the image quality in a strict manner, you have to
> >> eliminate as many variables as possible.
> >>
> >> But again, if the testing is for whether I enjoy using this camera, and
> no
> >> more than that, there is no need to a tripod.
> >>
> >> Both tests, at the most elemental level, and at the aggregate level, are
> >> valid. But Tina's tests do not show whether M264 has better image
> >> qualities. It tests whether she can produce better results with M264 or
> >> not, where the image quality is an aggregate of resolution, dynamic
> range
> >> and other attributes, as well as handling, and other more subjected
> >> attributes.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Richard Man <
> richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Nothing wrong with "do I like to photograph with the camera and do the
> >>> output looks good" subjective tests.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:56 PM, George Lottermoser <
> >>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As I have said before, I do not do controlled tests on tripods.  I do
> >>>> real
> >>>>> life tests the way I would use the cameras.  Tripod tests would be of
> >>> no
> >>>>> use to me since I never use a tripod.  I hold the camera or prop it
> >> on
> >>>> the
> >>>>> nearest post.  It works for me, maybe not for others.
> >>>>
> >>>> The question then becomes:
> >>>> What qualities, or variables are you testing for?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> George Lottermoser
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.imagist.com
> >>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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> >
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