Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2016/02/12
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thank you, Aram! I'm glad somebody understands what I'm doing and why!! Tina On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote: > Right. She is not testing the camera or lens. She is testing the > photographic system, which includes the photographer and the environment in > which the system is working. Real life tests will tell you how the system > will perform in the world in which you are working. A test of the system > has to include all variables as variables. The test of one item has to > control all variables. Apples oranges. Who cares what the camera alone > can do if you will never be using it under those controlled conditions? > > Keep testing and learning how the system works. I look forward to the > amazing photos it will produce in your hands. > > Aram > > > > Aram Langhans > (Semi) Retired Science Teacher > & Unemployed photographer > > ?The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin himself > would ever have dared dream.? James D. Watson > -----Original Message----- From: Ken Iisaka > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:33 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: Tests with MM and M246 > > It all boils down to what you're testing for. > > If you are comparing the image quality in a strict manner, you have to > eliminate as many variables as possible. > > But again, if the testing is for whether I enjoy using this camera, and no > more than that, there is no need to a tripod. > > Both tests, at the most elemental level, and at the aggregate level, are > valid. But Tina's tests do not show whether M264 has better image > qualities. It tests whether she can produce better results with M264 or > not, where the image quality is an aggregate of resolution, dynamic range > and other attributes, as well as handling, and other more subjected > attributes. > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Richard Man <richard at > richardmanphoto.com> > wrote: > > Nothing wrong with "do I like to photograph with the camera and do the >> output looks good" subjective tests. >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:56 PM, George Lottermoser < >> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > > On Feb 11, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > As I have said before, I do not do controlled tests on tripods. I do >> > real >> > > life tests the way I would use the cameras. Tripod tests would be of >> no >> > > use to me since I never use a tripod. I hold the camera or prop it on >> > the >> > > nearest post. It works for me, maybe not for others. >> > >> > The question then becomes: >> > What qualities, or variables are you testing for? >> > >> > Regards, >> > George Lottermoser >> > >> > http://www.imagist.com >> > http://www.imagist.com/blog >> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >> // On Facebook: http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto >> // On Instagram: https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > -- > Ken Iisaka > first name at last name dot org or com > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Tina Manley http:// <http://t.sidekickopen35.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgfmKYPW4WzBHl3Mx_9dW3LqWkM56dQ1Jf7P8b5b02?t=http%3A%2F%2Ftina-manley.artistwebsites.com%2F&si=6038418186567680&pi=ab4cfa51-c9e2-4ee7-c638-98008887f519> www.tinamanley.com http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/