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Subject: [Leica] M7 body coming - Lluis
From: gerry.walden at icloud.com (Gerry Walden)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 15:06:43 +0000
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Five rolls ordered through Amazon - no trouble. Plenty of people seem to 
stock it. Fuji themselves seem pretty vague about it although it is imported 
through them It doesn?t even appear on their web site.

Gerry

> On 14 Mar 2016, at 14:39, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I had an interesting chat with the guy who runs the lab I will use for my 
> b&w film processing today. We chatted about the best film to use, and his 
> opinion was that Fuji Neopan 400CN is the best now. he said it is easy for 
> them to process as it runs through the C41 chemistry, and scans 
> beautifully. I am currently trying to get hold of some, and chatting to 
> Fuji. I will keep you posted.
> 
> Gerry
> 
>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 11:53, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Here develop and scan to CD is about ?10 (?12.50) which is in addition to 
>> film
>> costs of course. Ilford charge extra.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 13/03/2016 23:35, lluisripollphotography wrote:
>>> Peter,
>>> 
>>> I have the same bad experience, once I have ordered a scanned film, they 
>>> gave me Tiff files but very bad scans, at this moment, except if you go 
>>> to a high pro level the best is you scan yourself your negs and also 
>>> develop, here a professional developing cost some more than 10? per film 
>>> and I?m not sure how good is.
>>> 
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 13 mar? 2016, a les 23:59, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>>> va escriure:
>>>> 
>>>> I tend to agree but if you want C-41 you are quite limited...basically 
>>>> to
>>>> Ilford, although there is some BW400CN still around on the shelves.
>>>> 
>>>> If I can inject a word of caution: watch the processing workflow. A lot 
>>>> of these
>>>> guys say that they will provide TIFFs or hi-res JPEGs. In my humble 
>>>> experience.
>>>> I have processed four films recently, two through my (formerly 
>>>> excellent) local
>>>> dev shop and two by Ilford.
>>>> 
>>>> Neither came back as I requested as High Res TIFFs. Both the dev shop 
>>>> and Ilford
>>>> returned scanned JPEGs. In the case of the dev shop the girls who now 
>>>> run it
>>>> didn't seem to know what a TIFF was; to them developing was just a 
>>>> piece of
>>>> workflow. Pop in the film at one end of the scanner and out pops a 
>>>> JPEG. Trouble
>>>> was that they were only 1M.
>>>> 
>>>> The Ilford ones at least were 3. -5 M, but goodness knows what the 
>>>> variation
>>>> signifies or how the decision was made.
>>>> 
>>>> In short you need to find someone you can trust and build that 
>>>> relationship.
>>>> 
>>>> But don't let that put you off film. It is still a brilliant medium.
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> PS From conversations I understand that some of the processing machine
>>>> manufacturers no longer supply machines that will do other than supply 
>>>> JPEGs
>>>> 
>>>> On 13/03/2016 13:31, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>> Hi Gerry,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Permit me to jump in?while film selection is not as good as 20 years 
>>>>> ago, in B&W I have bought some of the same films I used back before 
>>>>> going digital, such as Tri-X, Fuji Acros, and the Ilford films.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: 
>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>> YNWA
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 10:01, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> your comments are of great interest. Now I have made the decision to 
>>>>>> shoot film again for some of my work I cannot wait to get started. I 
>>>>>> am a little out of touch with modern films, so which do you use?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 02:15, lluisripollphotography 
>>>>>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good new Gerry!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I?m shooting again film too, I have several films to develop, I?m a 
>>>>>>> little disappointed with all these problems with sensors etc? , I 
>>>>>>> have followed the comments on the LFI about the sensor problems and 
>>>>>>> one of the members has said "If you want "real" B&W, pick up an 
>>>>>>> earlier M Leica or any other film camera and shoot film.?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As you say, we are trained for this!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> El 12 mar? 2016, a les 17:21, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
>>>>>>>> icloud.com> va escriure:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I ordered a used M7 today, and I am looking forward to getting back 
>>>>>>>> to film after 13 or 14 years. I bought it mainly as a backup in 
>>>>>>>> case anything goes wrong with my M9, but having said that i shot 
>>>>>>>> film for around 40+ years from the age of 14 and it will be good to 
>>>>>>>> play with it again. Back to the world of exploring which film is 
>>>>>>>> best handled by the processors I guess because i don't want to get 
>>>>>>>> into the processing side of life, which I never did enjoy. it 
>>>>>>>> should arrive on Tuesday complete with an 'Artisan' half-case and a 
>>>>>>>> Leicatime strap - such class!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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