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Subject: [Leica] M7 body coming - Peter
From: gerry.walden at icloud.com (Gerry Walden)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 22:44:21 +0000
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Yes peter, and although it comes with Silverfast included I much prefer the 
results I get from Vuescan. BTW, you mentioned Silverprint and they are now 
an easy drive for me as they have moved out of London to Poole.

Gerry


> On 14 Mar 2016, at 22:41, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> wrote:
> 
> Which do you use? the 8200i?
> 
> Peter
> 
> On 14/03/2016 21:09, Gerry Walden wrote:
>> I plan to do my own scanning Peter. I am getting good results from my 
>> Plustek so just got to get some images now!
>> 
>> Gerry
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 20:58, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try 
>>> http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Fuji-Black-and-White-Film/catalogue/186/
>>> 
>>> BTW I looked at Peak Imaging who have a very high reputation, but even 
>>> they will
>>> only scan to JPEG, although some are very high resolution (40+MB)
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>>> On 14/03/2016 14:39, Gerry Walden wrote:
>>>> I had an interesting chat with the guy who runs the lab I will use for 
>>>> my b&w film processing today. We chatted about the best film to use, 
>>>> and his opinion was that Fuji Neopan 400CN is the best now. he said it 
>>>> is easy for them to process as it runs through the C41 chemistry, and 
>>>> scans beautifully. I am currently trying to get hold of some, and 
>>>> chatting to Fuji. I will keep you posted.
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 11:53, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here develop and scan to CD is about ?10 (?12.50) which is in addition 
>>>>> to film
>>>>> costs of course. Ilford charge extra.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13/03/2016 23:35, lluisripollphotography wrote:
>>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have the same bad experience, once I have ordered a scanned film, 
>>>>>> they gave me Tiff files but very bad scans, at this moment, except if 
>>>>>> you go to a high pro level the best is you scan yourself your negs 
>>>>>> and also develop, here a professional developing cost some more than 
>>>>>> 10? per film and I?m not sure how good is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> El 13 mar? 2016, a les 23:59, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at 
>>>>>>> summaventures.com> va escriure:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I tend to agree but if you want C-41 you are quite 
>>>>>>> limited...basically to
>>>>>>> Ilford, although there is some BW400CN still around on the shelves.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If I can inject a word of caution: watch the processing workflow. A 
>>>>>>> lot of these
>>>>>>> guys say that they will provide TIFFs or hi-res JPEGs. In my humble 
>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>> I have processed four films recently, two through my (formerly 
>>>>>>> excellent) local
>>>>>>> dev shop and two by Ilford.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Neither came back as I requested as High Res TIFFs. Both the dev 
>>>>>>> shop and Ilford
>>>>>>> returned scanned JPEGs. In the case of the dev shop the girls who 
>>>>>>> now run it
>>>>>>> didn't seem to know what a TIFF was; to them developing was just a 
>>>>>>> piece of
>>>>>>> workflow. Pop in the film at one end of the scanner and out pops a 
>>>>>>> JPEG. Trouble
>>>>>>> was that they were only 1M.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Ilford ones at least were 3. -5 M, but goodness knows what the 
>>>>>>> variation
>>>>>>> signifies or how the decision was made.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In short you need to find someone you can trust and build that 
>>>>>>> relationship.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But don't let that put you off film. It is still a brilliant medium.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PS From conversations I understand that some of the processing 
>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>> manufacturers no longer supply machines that will do other than 
>>>>>>> supply JPEGs
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2016 13:31, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Gerry,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Permit me to jump in?while film selection is not as good as 20 
>>>>>>>> years ago, in B&W I have bought some of the same films I used back 
>>>>>>>> before going digital, such as Tri-X, Fuji Acros, and the Ilford 
>>>>>>>> films.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: 
>>>>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>>>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>>>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 10:01, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
>>>>>>>>> icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> your comments are of great interest. Now I have made the decision 
>>>>>>>>> to shoot film again for some of my work I cannot wait to get 
>>>>>>>>> started. I am a little out of touch with modern films, so which do 
>>>>>>>>> you use?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 02:15, lluisripollphotography 
>>>>>>>>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Good new Gerry!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I?m shooting again film too, I have several films to develop, I?m 
>>>>>>>>>> a little disappointed with all these problems with sensors etc? , 
>>>>>>>>>> I have followed the comments on the LFI about the sensor problems 
>>>>>>>>>> and one of the members has said "If you want "real" B&W, pick up 
>>>>>>>>>> an earlier M Leica or any other film camera and shoot film.?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As you say, we are trained for this!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> El 12 mar? 2016, a les 17:21, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
>>>>>>>>>>> icloud.com> va escriure:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I ordered a used M7 today, and I am looking forward to getting 
>>>>>>>>>>> back to film after 13 or 14 years. I bought it mainly as a 
>>>>>>>>>>> backup in case anything goes wrong with my M9, but having said 
>>>>>>>>>>> that i shot film for around 40+ years from the age of 14 and it 
>>>>>>>>>>> will be good to play with it again. Back to the world of 
>>>>>>>>>>> exploring which film is best handled by the processors I guess 
>>>>>>>>>>> because i don't want to get into the processing side of life, 
>>>>>>>>>>> which I never did enjoy. it should arrive on Tuesday complete 
>>>>>>>>>>> with an 'Artisan' half-case and a Leicatime strap - such class!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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