[Leica] Snapshot Profile mode

[sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)]

I tried it once, long ago, but it was maddening to me, because it just added 
something to undo

from my iPad

Sonny Carter

> On May 24, 2016, at 6:22 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've never used a user profile.  I always shoot everything raw so no
> profile is needed.
> 
> Tina
> 
>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> According to Overgaard:
>> 
>> "When you have saved no user profiles, the only available choice is the "
>> - " (no profile). If you don't have any specific use for User profiles, I
>> recommend you don't define any."
>> 
>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:22 PM, bob catchpole via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's good to know conclusively that in 'Snapshot Profile mode' the camera
>>> only shoots JPEGs. Which, for me, is plent reason to avoid ever
>>> accidentally using it!
>>> Nathan says "It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves
>>> several actions, not just pressing a button." I've just checked and sadly
>>> that's not the case.
>>> 
>>> Here's what happened. I created a user profile ('Bob') and photographed
>>> for a couple of hours. At some point, when maybe I changed the ISO
>> setting,
>>> the camera exited the user profile (since it no longer conformed to the
>>> 'Bob' profile settings). At the time I wasn't aware of this, which
>> wasn't a
>>> problem since I was aware of the camera settings.
>>> 
>>> However, later, when I pressed SET I noticed at the bottom where before
>> it
>>> said 'Set user profile... Bob' it now said 'Set user profile... -'
>> (blank).
>>> I now realised the camera wasn't using the 'Bob' profile. I highlighted
>>> that line and pressed SET to have a look at the profiles menu to maybe
>>> re-set the Bob' profile.
>>> 
>>> This was the danger moment! And a real flaw as far as I'm concerned! By
>>> default 'Snapshot Profile' is selected at the top of the list. In that
>>> moment I decided I didn't want to set a profile and continue as I'd been
>>> doing, and just exit the menu. To exit you have to press the shutter
>>> button. But if you accidentally press the SET button (so easy to do!)
>>> you're in trouble because now you're in the dreaded 'Snapshot Profile
>> mode'.
>>> Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot
>>> Profile mode? Unfortunately the answer seems to be 'Yes'.
>>>   Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode
>>> can't be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? I'd
>> love
>>> to know, but am not optimistic.
>>> 
>>> By the way, I think the presentation and explanation of the Snapshot
>>> Profile in the M-E manual is appalling bad and unworthy of Leica. I
>> didn't
>>> understand what they were on about, which is why I came here for help.
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      From: photo photo <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 17:10
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>> 
>>> Just out of curiosity, and to demonstrate the usefulness of looking in
>> the
>>> manual, I looked up the M9 manual and there (on p. 103) it is stated that
>>> in
>>> snapshot mode, quality is set to JPG Fine.
>>> 
>>> The instruction manual further explains (p. 141) how to set the snapshot
>>> mode.
>>> It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves several
>>> actions, not
>>> just pressing a button.
>>> 
>>> Once again, I maintain that reading the manual would have provided the
>>> original
>>> poster with the answers he needed.
>>> 
>>> Nathan
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   Op 24 mei 2016 om 16:16 schreef Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   Looks like the snapshot mode is not addressed in the M-E
>> instructions.
>>>> 
>>>>   If you don't set any user profiles, then you will not take a chance
>> of
>>>>   entering the snapshot mode. (That's why so few of us have any
>>> experience
>>>>   with the mode.)
>>>> 
>>>>   I don't have my M9 nearby, but from what I read, it seems you may
>>> still
>>>>   have the option to shoot DNG with Snapshot mode.
>>>> 
>>>>   Leica M9 brochure: "In snapshot mode, the M9 automatically sets as
>>> many
>>>>   settings as possible, thus providing a valuable aid to spontaneous
>> and
>>>>   discreet photography."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:13 AM, bob catchpole via LUG
>>>> <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>   wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your comments Philippe. Much appreciated, as I'm new to
>>> the
>>>>> list and to the Leica M-E.
>>>>> I hoped my questions would be easy for folks on the list. John now
>>> says
>>>>> it's "impossible to give definite answers."
>>>>> Question 1: In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only
>> shoot
>>>>> JPEGs?
>>>>> Yes or no? That's pretty definite. Anyone know?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the
>>> Snapshot
>>>>> Profile mode? Yes or no? Has it happened to anyone on the list?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile
>> mode
>>>>> can't
>>>>> be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? Yes
>> or
>>> no?
>>>>> Anybody know?
>>>>> Thanks,Bob
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>>>>> To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 13:37
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>> 
>>>>> Impossible to give definitive answers as we all work differently,
>>> not
>>>>> aware of anybody on this list accidently getting their M9 into
>>> snapshot
>>>>> mode.... In fact, as there are (thankfully) so few options I doubt
>>> many
>>>>> use
>>>>> more than a single profile, if that.....
>>>>> 
>>>>> john
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> 
>>>>> John,
>>>>> Your comments suggest you're not exactly best placed to offer
>>> conclusive
>>>>> answers! It would be good if others with personal knowledge and
>>>>> experience
>>>>> of the issue could respond.
>>>>> I'm disappointed to find a Leica camera accommodating a feature
>>> like the
>>>>> Snapshot Profile mode. It would damage my photography, but seems
>>> easy to
>>>>> slip into accidentally. Can it be permanently disabled?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>>>>> To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 17:00
>>>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>> 
>>>>> If it is similar to the M9 (never used an M-E) then there should
>> be
>>> no
>>>>> danger of entering snapshot mode, never done it in nearly six
>> years
>>> of
>>>>> M9
>>>>> ownership ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) Never felt the urge to find out what it does....
>>>>> 2) Doubt it
>>>>> 3) Never needed it
>>>>> 
>>>>> john
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org]
>> On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of bob catchpole via LUG
>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 4:34 p.m.
>>>>> To: John McMaster; lug at leica-users.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>> Thanks for the link, unfortunately the thread is rather confused
>>> and the
>>>>> concluding comments not very re-assuring. I don't feel my 3
>>> questions
>>>>> have
>>>>> been answered, I hope others on the list will be able to
>>> help.Thanks,Bob
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>>>>> To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 15:34
>>>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Bob, the last comment on this thread?
>> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/122980-how-to-deactivate-the-snapshot-mode-on-the-m9/
>>>>> 
>>>>> john
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org]
>> On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of bob catchpole via LUG
>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 2:31 p.m.
>>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org
>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>> I've just started using a digital Leica, the M-E. My questions are
>>> about
>>>>> the Snapshot Profile mode, which I'd personally like to have as
>>> little
>>>>> to
>>>>> do with as possible!
>>>>> 1) In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only shoot JPEGs?
>>>>> 2) Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot
>> Profile
>>>>> mode?
>>>>> 3) Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode can't
>> be
>>>>> switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled?
>>>>> Thanks,Bob
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
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