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Subject: [Leica] The new Hasselblad is announced
From: red735i at verizon.net (Frank Verizon 2 2016)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 07:11:49 -0300
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Most likely true.  MF seems to me, now, to be used to mean bigger than 
24x36, which in film days, was called full frame, now FX.

Did the sheet film guys go through the same word games in the early 20th 
century?

Weren't 35mm film cameras originally referred to as...miniature?

BTW, if you listen to the Hasselblad intro video, the CEO states the lenses 
are concepted and designed by Hasselblad and and manufactured by "Nittoh" in 
Japan.  (Note that I have phonetically spelled the name " Nittoh". The 
actual spelling may be different).  No Fuji involvement at all.  Hasselblad 
has done a lot in terms of lens fault correction by use of FW and SW. i 
suspect the same is true with the x1d. 

All H lenses are apparently compatible with an adapter. 

Lenses ( at least the 2 announced ones) have built in shutters. 

No image stabilization functionality is mentioned. 

Frank Filippone

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 23, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:

I think 645 was called medium format because it used medium format film, not 
because of the frame size.  

from my iPad

Sonny Carter

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Frank Verizon 2 2016 <red735i at verizon.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Sometime in the long ago, some marketing guy thought the rather obscure 
> 645 size ( remember the A16 Hassy back?) was MF.  At that time, there was 
> 6x6 and 645.  ( and 6x7; 6x9; and even 6x8). All the numbers referred to 
> film size in mm.  They all used a common 120 film size. 
> Then someone thought that 6x6 was a dead end and there were no more 6x6 
> cameras being made. They were all 645....the other sizes went dead.
> So magically, 645 became the MF standard (and only size). 
> With the advent of digital, 645 became a ratio (4:3), not a mm size, and 
> so now we have digital MF sensors that measure 44x33mm
> 
> There are larger sensors.... But none measure 56x56 mm, the old time MF 
> standard
> 
> We can only hope some sensor in the future will measure 56x56mm. My CF 
> lenses will cover the sensor, easily. 
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 22, 2016, at 6:58 PM, lluisripollphotography 
> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Neither for me I think, I don?t like operate on cameras in Menu mode 
> neither with EVF, on the other hand this one is not exactly a MF camera, 
> IMHO it is equivalent to a smaller 4,5 x 6, the CMOS sensor is 43.8 ? 
> 32.9mm, for me the true MF (at least in film)  is 60 x 60 mm (2 1/4" x 2 
> 1/4?).
> 
> Lluis
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> El 22 juny 2016, a les 23:16, Frank Verizon 2 2016 <red735i at 
>> verizon.net> va escriure:
>> 
>> Appears to be a Leica SL on steroids, at a discount store price. 
>> Does 2 lenses sound familiar?
>> No zoom yet, no H lens adapter yet. 
>> Fully electronic lens to body connections mean that CF,C, and F lenses 
>> will not work, unless they make a special adapter available
>> 
>> It is substantially lighter than my Leaf + 500CM system, a good thing.
>> 
>> I am unconvinced it is a path for me.
>> 
>> Frank Filippone
>> 
>> <http://www.hasselblad.com/x1d>
>> 
>> 
>> 
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