[Leica] Problem with the M9

[mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)]

Well Ted! I think it works like you go in the darkroom and you try to make
the thing look like it looked and it comes out in the end not quite what you
expected but you like it better anyway. We do the best we can.
I don't know about you but some of my better pictures come from tricky
negatives which were not so easy to print. You're coming out with something
you don't quite expect.  But it all works at great in the end. Pretty soon I
forget what the thing was really supposed to look like. Or what plan A was.


On 1/5/17 2:25 AM, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> V. Roger/ Mark Rabiner: offered.
> But does that not move you into the "fine art world?"
> By tweaking it into a completely false photo?
> Me, as a photojournalist, documentary photographer since 21 Sept. 1951 
> first
> front page published photo. And throughout the following years until my so
> called retirement a few years ago. Where I shot truthful images  with a
> limited amount of darkroom adjustments.
> But then all those years were for documentaries, news agencies, newspapers,
> wire services and magazines. And several hard cover books covering the 
> medical
> profession that sold several thousand copies. Along with other subjects!
> None of those years was I involved in all the techie tweaking of today!
> Certainly what many of you are involved with?
> Yes quite frankly I have little, more than likely "not a clue" what many of
> you write about ?
> Of course I want a nice clean colour image or B&W print or image for
> projection when giving lectures or image presentations to groups of folks 
> from
> all walks of life! Most certainly purchasing clients!
> However, I shoot no differently today than I've done during the past 65 
> years
> using my "KISS" concept! It does seem to have worked OK. It's just all this
> cotton pickin' techie stuff that drives me crazy these days!
> Certainly when the main success of any fine photograph is
>  "The CONTENT!" Simply with nothing more than      "Jeeeeesh look at that?
> CLICK!" 
> MAGICAL MOMENT CAPTURED! Thank you very much!
> Cheers,
> Dr. Ted Grant  C. M.  O. C.
> 
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> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> V.Roger via LUG
> Sent: January-04-17 9:12 PM
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Subject: [Leica] Problem with te M9
> 
> Mark Rabiner wrote: You get to know they image you clicked on in the field 
> way
> better in the
> darkroom as you're working with it. And working with the image going 
> through
> several sheets of paper and spending and hour is often going to take you in
> an unexpected direction. Which you expect is going to happen.
> And again years later when you "perform" that negative or capture again you
> can change your mind on it.
> Some people for some reason wish that is not the case. You wonder if they'd
> ever printed in a darkroom.
> 
> I honestly feel that the true art of photography (for me anyway) is in
> post-processing. It was that way from day one that I did darkroom work
> starting in the late 50s.I agree with Mark wholeheartedly. Sometimes I 
> start
> out with an image I like, but after reviewing it and doing some work on 
> it, I
> change my outlookcompletely and go way into left field. Often it isn't 
> until
> the final print which looks very different fromn what I initially saw on 
> the
> computer screen, that Iachieve what I wanted, or pre visualized.
> 
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