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Subject: [Leica] IMG: My Struggle to Learn to Use Lightroom
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 10:39:52 -0600
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Nathan,

Thank you very much for sharing your file structure with me.  It would 
appear that you gave a lot of thought to this, and it gives me a good 
pattern to follow.

I have been shooting RAW+jpeg, and using the jpegs as a quick way to 
discard the losers and pick the winners.  It looks as if LR can do that 
job from the RAW images, so I think I will also shoot RAW only.

I am now going to spend some time developing a LR file system. My RAW 
image files are on a dedicated external drive using a 
Year/Date/Camera/Lens/Subject format that I have used for years. I will 
probably put my completed images back into that same folder, because my 
volume of images is quite low compared to some of you more prolific 
producers.

Thanks again, and I will get busy on a file structure.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 1/6/2017 12:45 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> Hi Jim,
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> I am coming late to this thread, but FWIW, here is my workflow. Before 
> getting into it, let me say that I like simplicity and hate using more 
> than one piece of software. This is why I like LR so much. It is the only 
> piece of photo editing software I need. No Photoshop, no specialized RAW 
> converters, no special panorama tools etc.?everything I need is in LR. I 
> use the standalone version, not the subscription. Also, I only ever shoot 
> RAW.
>
> So, with that, here is what happens to an image from the moment I press 
> the shutter till you see it in one of my posts. I will use one of my 
> recent Milano images as an example.
>
> 1) Take picture. Always RAW.
>
> 2) Copy the RAW file to the appropriate folder on an external hard drive 
> used only for storage of RAW files. The folder structure on this drive is: 
> CAMERA-YEAR. So in this case, the top folder is Leica (since I had the M8 
> with me in Milano) and the subfolder is 2016. But of course you can 
> organize your RAW files any way you like, as long as you know where you 
> put them so that you can tell LR where they are in the next step.
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> 3) Import the RAW file into LR. The LR image folder is on a separate 
> external hard drive and is simply organized by year. So in this example, 
> LR imports the image to a subfolder of LR Pictures called, simply, 2016.
>
> 4) Make my adjustments to the image using the tools available in LR.
>
> 5) Move the image to the appropriate gallery within LR. This concept of 
> galleries is incredibly useful, and has nothing to do with the folder 
> structure on the hard drive. Think of it as a way of organizing the images 
> around themes or events or however you wish to define the categories. In 
> my case, I have a gallery called ?Alicante life? where most of my images 
> end up since I live here and so most of my images are made here. But in 
> the example I am using, I put the image in a gallery I created for this 
> purpose called ?Milano 2016?, which is in turn a sub-gallery of a gallery 
> set called ?Italy?. I have such gallery sets for countries that I visit 
> frequently, i.e. Denmark, the US, the UK, Italy, Germany, France.
>
> The other very useful thing about galleries is that you can assign an 
> image to more than one gallery?you are not making additional copies by 
> doing that, there is always just one physical file, but you are simply 
> letting LR know that a particular image belongs to several categories. For 
> example, I have a gallery called ?Cycling? where I keep the images I take 
> while out cycling (doh!). So, if I take any picture during my ride this 
> morning, they will belong to both the ?Alicante life? and ?Cycling? 
> galleries. When I cycled in Mallorca in February 2016 or in Denmark in 
> April 2016, the resulting images similarly ended up in the ?Cycling? 
> gallery and in the respective geographically defined galleries.
>
> 6) Export the image for web publication. In the case of my Milano image, 
> the folder to which I export the image is a subfolder of the ?Galleries 
> for Frozenlight? folder called ?MIlano 2016?. I similarly have folders and 
> subfolders for my weekly blog images, my Greatpix galleries etc. All of 
> this irrelevant as far as LR is concerned. As Ken said, it is like 
> printing, a one-way activity. Once exported, LR has nothing to do with 
> that JPG file.
>
> 7) Upload the JPG file to the appropriate web gallery and post the link to 
> the LUG and Oly lists.
>
> Of course, there are backups of the RAW files and the LR files, but that 
> is not our subject here.
>
> Hope that helps/inspires.
>
> Nathan
>
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> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> YNWA
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>> On 06 Jan 2017, at 06:35, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Richard.  That is the direction I'm heading.  I just need to get 
>> comfortable with it.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>
>> On 1/5/2017 11:29 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>>> Jim, for posting from LR, I either export/FTP directory to my server, or 
>>> if
>>> you are using something like ht eLUIG gallery, first export the image 
>>> with
>>> the correct settings (e.g. maybe 900 pixels across, sRGB color space 
>>> etc.)
>>> to a folder on the disk. For example, I use g:\PhotoExports. I set up
>>> "template" so it's just a couple clicks to do it each time. Once you have
>>> the exported file on disk, then just upload to your favorite site per 
>>> usual.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, all of you gals and guys are using Lightroom, and it can convert 
>>>> Fuji
>>>> X-T2 RAF files, so I need to adapt.  I downloaded the 7-day free trial, 
>>>> and
>>>> on my second day, I managed to convert an X-E1 RAF file and post a jpeg
>>>> image.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/January+Selfie.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> But, I did a lot of chasing my tail in trying to place images in the
>>>> Library, and post from there.  That didn't seem to work, so I took a
>>>> devious route to place a "real" image in my normal folder, and posted 
>>>> from
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> Has any one got a link to a Lightroom tutorial for Dummies?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>
>>>>
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