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Subject: [Leica] Wine (WAS: IMGs: At the Exhibition)
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 11:40:21 +0530
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They do, but it is limited to popular high volume blended malts like JW
Black, for example, or rare high priced collector level malts. Everyday
drinking single malts do not have either the volumes or price to make it
worthwhile.

I never drink Johnny Walker Red or Black at parties in India, for example,
unless I am sure about the source - more bottles of these are sold in India
than manufactured by Diageo (according to The Economist, no less!).

Cheers
Jayanand

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:38 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
wrote:

> Actually, whisky and other branded liquors do get faked too. One thing
> that I have learned during the past few years is that ANYTHING with a brand
> name that has value can be and is faked. Even mundane everyday products
> like washing detergent.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> YNWA
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> > On 20 Feb 2017, at 06:56, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Nathan,
> > From what I understand, this is mainly because of prestige buying in
> China,
> > and has to led to such an explosion of fakes that a novice buyer like me
> is
> > never sure of what he is buying at the top end. Makes it a bit of Russian
> > Roulette, if you ask me. I take comfort in the fact that nobody really
> > bothers to fake Lagavulin 16 (that fate is left for JWBlack and its
> ilk!).
> > Cheers
> > Jayanand
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
> > frozenlight.eu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jayanand,
> >>
> >> I am not Douglas, but I have a lot of experience with Bordeaux wines
> from
> >> the years I lived in Brussels, 1995-2000. Back then, I would drive to
> >> Bordeaux every year with a couple of other guys, and we would buy from
> some
> >> of the good chateaux in St. Emilion and Pomerol. Likewise, every
> November
> >> one of the Belgian supermarket chains had a sale of good wines. Even
> Latour
> >> and its ilk were relatively affordable?30 or 40 EUR a bottle is not
> cheap
> >> but not out of reach either.
> >>
> >> Since then, prices of Bordeaux wines have risen to such ridiculous
> levels
> >> that I never buy them anymore. We have lots of good wine here in Spain
> >> which, with a few exceptions, is still priced at reasonable levels.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Nathan
> >>
> >> Nathan Wajsman
> >> Alicante, Spain
> >> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> >> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> >> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> <
> >> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> >> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> >> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> >> YNWA
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> >>> On 20 Feb 2017, at 05:46, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Douglas,
> >>> Like most Indians my experience and expertise runs towards whisky, but
> >> that
> >>> does not mean I do not enjoy a good glass of wine when available. Those
> >>> vintages sound very good to taste, and trip off the tongue rather well,
> >> but
> >>> my knowledge is zilch on this subject, so I will take the word of an
> >> expert
> >>> such as yourself for it! Just a question - the one name I recognize is
> >>> Chateau Latour, and I know it is very expensive (never tasted it to the
> >>> best of my knowledge), so how do you buy this level of wine? Does your
> >> club
> >>> buy it early and lay it down, or what?
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Jayanand
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Jayanand, Philippe. I have to wear black tie and to be honest it's
> >> easier
> >>>> in the long run. I'm in the oldest foreign branch of a society for
> >> Bordeaux
> >>>> wines - it was founded in 1954 - and all our dinners have black tie as
> >> de
> >>>> rigeur. I'm The Donald of it and was re-elected president again that
> >> night.
> >>>>
> >>>> For those of you who are interested in wine, we had the G de Guiraud
> >> 2013
> >>>> and 2014 as the opening whites. BTW the 2013 is better. Then we had
> >> three
> >>>> reds - '98 Ducru Beaucaillou, '98 Montrose, and '98 Latour - and we
> >>>> finished with a pudding wine 2001 Rieussec. We ate at one of the
> oldest
> >>>> gentlemen's clubs in Ireland and the food was excellent. All very
> >>>> delectable and I didn't even have the slightest hangover the following
> >>>> morning.
> >>>>
> >>>> Douglas
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jayanand Govindaraj" <
> >>>> jayanand at gmail.com>
> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 5:18 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGs: At the Exhibition
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Douglas,
> >>>>> You are looking great with your prints! I did not know black tie was
> >> still
> >>>>> de rigueur for dinners, however formal, we must be living on
> different
> >>>>> planets - here we are happy if they do not turn up in shorts and flip
> >>>>> flops!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>> Jayanand
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The opening of our exhibition http://www.mermaidartscentre.i
> >>>>>> e/exhibitions/details/bray-camera-club took place on the 9th and I
> >> went
> >>>>>> along. I was a bit overdressed for the occasion, and in a rush, as I
> >> had
> >>>>>> one of my dinners on in the centre of Dublin a little over an hour
> >> later.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Myself beside my photographs at the Mermaid Arts Centre, Bray, Co.
> >>>>>> Wicklow. Image taken by Eilis Taves using my Fuji X100S.
> >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DouglasBray/Interiors/BCC+
> >>>>>> Exhibitions/BCC+1.jpg.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Donal Enright and Malcolm McCamley at the BCC Exhibition in the
> >> Mermaid
> >>>>>> Arts Centre, Bray, Co. Wicklow. Fuji X100S.
> >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DouglasBray/Interiors/BCC+
> >>>>>> Exhibitions/BCC+2.jpg.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Douglas
> >>>>>>
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