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Subject: [Leica] Film Lab
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 13:00:51 +0530
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Dan,
Oh, I am sure of that!

I feel that digital output is still better than darkroom output, though,
even for B&W. IMHO, there is simply no comparison, in the complete
workflow, from capture to print. As I said, others may have different
opinions and I respect that - I know Lluis does, and we have discussed this
many, many times privately, and in the end we just amicably agree to
disagree, and go on with what suits us individually! However, I find the
exchange of views very useful, leading to invaluable insights.

Cameras are tools for me, and digital cameras, Fuji & Nikon, one for street
and one for wildlife, are my tools of choice at this point of time. The
Fuji GFX50S is tempting, and exerting a siren's song,  but I cannot see how
I have any use for it that makes it superior to my existing gear, for my
type of photography, and the sizes I print at present. A printer that
accepts 24" wide paper, instead of 17" that my Epson 3885 uses might be a
better choice right now!

I have a fair amount of film camera equipment gathering dust on my shelves
and in the bank locker, more, I am sure, than most of the most committed
film shooters around - Leica IIIF and IIIG, Nikon F Apollo. F2AS,
F3Titanium, F4, F100, Canon and Nikon Rangefinders, Rollei TLRs, Mamiya
645E - except for the Leicas, all of them were originally bought by my
family - uncles, aunts, father, myself - and finally found their way to me.
Most of these are with me because I did not have the wit (or the heart) to
sell them in time. This after selling most of my Leica film equipment in
London a few years ago (M3, M2, R6.2 and 10 lenses)!

Pens and watches, on the other hand, are hobbies, passions which make them
an emotional issue, while cameras are just a utilitarian one! I am
particularly fond of JLR and IWC in watches, and Pelikan as well as the
Japanese trio, Namiki/Pilot, Sailor and Platinum as far as pens are
concerned, and primarily these are what I use.

Cheers
Jayanand

On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Dan Khong <dankhong at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jayanand
>
> You might be more analog oriented than you think.
>
> I actually like collecting and using old fully mechanical watches and apart
> from the antique look, almost all that I have are accurate and they run
> like clockwork. I also write with fountain pens in my work and cheap ones
> perform really well. So it looks that we have much in common.
>
> Dan K.
>
> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at 
> gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I disagree, I think film is nowhere as good as digital, but to each his
> > own.....:-) (Hey - I use mechanical watches and fountain pens!!!)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Jayanand
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 3:18 AM, lluisripollphotography <
> > lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Gerry, Dan
> > >
> > > I?m agree of course, but film is not only nostalgia, it is better
> quality
> > > than pixels technologies?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Lluis
> > >
> > >
> > > > El 3 juny 2017, a les 23:23, Dan Khong <dankhong at gmail.com> va
> > escriure:
> > > >
> > > > Lluis
> > > >
> > > > Film and darkroom is far from dead. Ilford is revived as
> Harman-Ilford.
> > > > Kodak still makes films both for still photography and
> cinematographic
> > > > industry. Seems Star Wars and latest Bond movie were shot on film.
> Once
> > > in
> > > > a while, I set up my darkroom (bedroom for the dry part and
> connecting
> > > > bathroom for the wet part) and enlarge a dozen prints. Nothing beats
> > the
> > > > smell of fixer for nostalgia.
> > > >
> > > > Bests
> > > >
> > > > Dan K.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 6:34 PM, lluisripollphotography <
> > > > lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Jayanand,
> > > >>
> > > >> The best B&W is from the darkroom, now I?ve been back I regret to
> have
> > > >> spent so much time and money on digital?.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers
> > > >> Lluis
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> El 16 maig 2017, a les 5:05, Jayanand Govindaraj <
> jayanand at gmail.com
> > >
> > > >> va escriure:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If it catches anybody's fancy!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/175814937/filmlab-an-
> > > >> app-for-viewing-and-digitizing-analog-f
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cheers
> > > >>> Jayanand
> > > >>>
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